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Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on September 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM Comments comments (0)

"MAMAF - Million American March Against Fear" Join AMPAC on a Historic Moment on 9/11/13 for Establishing the Humanity and Justice through Civil Rights Movement

AMPAC National News: Washington DC, Feb 2013

 

Brothers and Sisters In The Struggle For Peace and Justice,

 

On September 11th, will you stand in peace with us?

Event: MAMAF - Million American March Against Fear on 9/11/13

 

AMPAC - The American Muslim Political Action Committee AMPAC in cooperation and solidarity with MANDAA - Movement Against the National Defense Authorization Act, NDPAAC - National Democratic Party Asian American Caucus, NYDPAAC - New York Democratic Party Asian American Caucus, NABAB - North American Bangladeshi Association for Bangladesh, MDPAAC - Missouri Democratic Party Asian American Caucus, CLA - Community Leadership Affairs, SACC - South Asian Chamber of Commerce, Mosque Care, DC Area 9/11 Truth Movement ,A&E - Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Movement, MMAT - Muslim Marching Against Terrorism, MD Rabbi Alam - the Founder of AMPAC, Richard Gage - the Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Movement, Dr. Kevin Barrett - the National Spokesperson for Muslim Think Tank, and The March Against Drones (MAD) will be gathering on the National Mall, and then launching a march on the halls of power.

 

We invite you to stand with and join us to Rally Against Fear at 12 noon on The National Mall, then the Congress, the Supreme Court, and the White House, to hold truth to power at the three major branches of American government.

 

We ask all individuals and organizations working for peace to attend this collective action to tell our Government leaders we want transparency and policies of peace. In the past 12 years since 9/11 the United States government as failed to protect and promote Constitutional liberties and human life, here and abroad. We feel that accountability in government has been ignored and the time has arrived to collectively speak truth to power.

Speaking will be experts and individuals on the lack of transparency and questions plaguing 9/11, steady erosion of domestic civil liberties, drone policy and the very dire effect of these on of plight of American Muslims here at home, and Muslim communities globally in the scope of U.S. imperialism, and the modern face of resistance to unmanned aerial surveillance and warfare.

 

At 2:00 pm we will embark from the Rally Against Fear, and onto the March Against Drones. The march will go from the rally point between 7th and 14th Streets on the National Mall to the Capitol building, around the Capitol, and onto the street between the Supreme Court and Congress. We will rally there, in the streets, for about 15 minutes, and then we will continue. We will take Constitution to Pennsylvania Avenue and down to the White House, where we will rally again in the street between Lafayette Park and the North Lawn.

 

This will be a professional, positive, and proactive event for the whole family, as we expect very soon for the National Park Service to grant us the permit we requested. At 2:00 pm we will embark from the Rally Against Fear, and onto the March Against Drones. The march will go from the rally point between 7th and 14th Streets on the National Mall to the Capitol building, around the Capitol, and onto the street between the Supreme Court and Congress. We will rally there, in the streets, for about 15 minutes, and then we will continue. We will take Constitution to Pennsylvania Avenue and down to the White House, where we will rally again in the street between Lafayette Park and the North Lawn.

 

We will have water available for anyone that needs it, we know it is a healthy march, but we feel it will call due attention to the issues at hand, and that it is worth the challenge. We hope you do too, and we sincerely hope you bring your good energy, your friends and family as well, and you stand up and speak out with us. Love, light, and solidarity to you!

 

Sincerely,

MD Rabbi Alam – Founder, AMPAC

Isa Hodge – Chief of Operation MAMAF (AMPAC)

Chris Phillips - DC Area Organizer

Darrell Willis – Directors Marching Against Drones

Greg Boyd – Executive Member DC Area 9/11 Truth Movement

Dr. Kevin Barrett – National Spokesman, Muslim Think Tank

Richard Gage – Founder, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Abu Zafor Mahmood – National Political Director, NABAB, March Organizer, NY

Ishaq Beg – Executive Member, AMPAC Florida Organizer

Angela Habibullah - Attorney-at-Law, Executive Member, Mosque Care

Amanda Buckner - AMPAC South Carolina Organizer

Syed Asif - South Asian Chamber of Commerce, MO, March Organizer

Florentino Camacho Jr. - Latinos for AMPAC, March Organizer

Ruby Al-sous - Women Co-Chair, Missouri Democratic Party Asian American Caucus, MAMAF Organizer

Dr. Talat Khan - AMPAC California Organizer,

Imam Hanif Khalil - AMPAC Kansas Organizer, Mosque Care

Sam Khan - AMPAC New Jersey Organizer

Anwarul Haque - AMPAC Atlanta Organizer

Joe D'Angalo - AMPAC Chicago Organizer, Chicago 9/11 Truth Movement

Imam Wallie Karim - Mosque Care, Chicago, Progressive Leadership Lagecy Inc

Ted Saboy - MAMAF Alabama Organizer

 

http://www.MAMAF.webs.com

 

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Many non-Muslim Americans are terrified of Muslims, who are portrayed by Hollywood and the US media as fanatical terrorists. Muslims, too, live in fear – of being dragged off in the night to Guantanamo and tortured, simply for the crime of being Muslim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

After discussing the matter with both Muslim and non-Muslim leaders last week of January 2013, the American Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC) has decided to abandon the “scary” Million Muslim March. Instead, it will launch a Million American March Against Fear. The march will still be taking place at the National Mall in Washington, DC. And it will still be held on September 11th, 2013.

 

Why march against fear on 9/11?

 

September 11th, 2001 was the beginning of a new era of fear. Since 9/11, Americans have been terrorized by the media. They have been taught to fear their neighbors. They have been inculcated with fear of other religions. They have been brainwashed into fearing people with brown skins, turbans, and foreign accents.

 

The BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares explains how global political elites have embraced the politics of fear. As the BBC film explains, all of this fear is based on myth, not reality. The BBC even admitted: “Al Qaeda is a myth.”

 

Whether or not Al Qaeda is completely mythical, the so-called “Islamic terrorist threat” is pure hallucination. FBI statistics prove that Americans are far more likely to drown in their bathtubs, or be hit by lightning, than to be killed by terrorists of any kind. And Muslims commit only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US – fewer than are committed by radical Jews, and vastly fewer than those perpetrated by leftists and hispanics.

 

There is no reason for Americans to be afraid of Muslims.

 

And Muslims should not be afraid of non-Muslim Americans. Most Americans are generous, tolerant, and committed to American ideals of religious freedom. It is only a certain faction of American elites who have hijacked the nation and turned it away from its Constitution.

 

It is time to tell the politicians that we are not afraid of each other – or of them.

 

It is time for us to stop cowering in our homes, and take to the streets.

 

It is time to join together and reject the politics of fear.

 

It is time to speak out and reject the destruction of the Constitution of the United States of America. The neocons were able to shred the Constitution because they succeeded, temporarily at least, in making us afraid of each other. But there is nothing to fear. Terrorism is not a statistically significant threat.

 

They wrote the Patriot Act before 9/11, and rushed it out immediately after 9/11. We accepted it because we were afraid. The two US Senators who were not sufficiently fearful – Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy – got US government anthrax in the mail.

 

After that, they too were afraid. They stopped asking questions about 9/11 and the Patriot Act, and just went along with the program.

 

But as the 12th anniversary of 9/11 approaches, we now know that there is nothing to fear. The whole “terrorist threat” is a hoax invented by fear-mongering politicians to control our minds and pick our pockets.

 

We shouldn't fear the truth about the 9/11-anthrax events, either. Only fear can keep preventing a real investigation of these crimes.

 

As President Franklin Delano Roosevelt so memorably put it: The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

 

“Al-Qaeda” cannot destroy the Constitution of the United States of America. Only fear can do that.

 

“Al-Qaeda” cannot even find an operative smart enough to know that plastic explosives cannot explode without a detonator. If you smuggle plastic explosives onto an airplane in your shoe, or tucked into your underwear, and try to light them on fire, the worst thing that could happen is that they might catch fire and burn your own foot, or your own crotch.

 

Plastic explosives without a detonator is sterno camping fuel – nothing more.

 

But “al-Qaeda” operatives like “shoe bomber” Richard Reid, and “underwear bomber” Abdulmutallab, are so stupid, so clumsy, so utterly incompetent that not only do they not understand the need for a detonator – they can't even manage to light a fire and properly burn themselves.

 

If you're a smoker, don't ever ask these guys for a light. You'll be waiting all day as they try, unsuccessfully, to light a match or a cigarette lighter.

 

“Al-Qaeda” is a joke.

 

And so is the whole “war on terror.”

 

If the United States of America is to remain a constitutional democratic republic, the American people need to stop being afraid.

 

They must stop being afraid of each other. And they must stop being afraid of the truth.

 

Please join the Million American March Against Fear in Washington, DC on September 11th, 2013.

 

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Sincerely

Dr. Kevin Barrett,

National Speaksperson, Think Tank, 

kbarrett@merr.com, 

(608) 583-2132,                                                                        


Isa Hodge, 

Chief of Operations,  

isahajj@gmail.com 

(816) 482-6893


MD Rabbi Alam  

Founder, AMPAC 

rabbituli00@yahoo.com 

(202) 618-0048  

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"Million American March Against Fear" (MAMAF) spawns annual conference, think tank

Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on July 31, 2013 at 1:35 AM Comments comments (3)

"Million American March Against Fear" (MAMAF) spawns annual conference, think tank

 

The American Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC) is making its "Million American March Against Fear " on September 11th in Washington, DC an annual event - complete with conference and think-tank.

 

"We American Muslims reject violence and terrorism, and defend the Constitutional rights of all Americans," says MD Alam, founder of AMPAC. "Every year on September 11th, beginning in 2013, we will be marching in Washington DC as we build toward our goal of bringing one million American Muslims to march in our nation's capital."

 

AMPAC's first annual event kicks off this September 11th, as Muslims and non-Muslims join together in Washington, DC for the Million American March Against Fear. "Both Muslims and non-Muslims have been victimized by the politics of fear," Alam says. "We reject fear and the divide-and-conquer politics it inspires. We want to bring Americans together under the Bill of Rights to work for a better future."

 

Alam explained that beginning on September 11th, 2014, AMPAC will also host an annual conference in Washington, D.C. That conference, building on the Million Muslim March, will aim at developing a new think tank affiliated with AMPAC. Its purpose: Counter violence, terrorism and extremism by bringing American Muslims into the political process.

 

Some have questioned why AMPAC has chosen September 11th for its annual march and conference in Washington, DC. "All Americans were victimized that day," says MD Alam. He points out that dozens of Muslims were killed in the World Trade Center demolitions, and that the phony "war on terror" launched by 9/11 has claimed two main victims: Muslims, and the Constitution of the United States of America. "It is time for Muslim and non-Muslim Americans to join together to defend our Constitution," Alam says. He added that he hopes that as American Muslims become an ever-greater force in American politics, they will use their growing clout to reject violence and extremism and help America return to Constitutional rule.

 

 

 

(http://AMPACusa.org/)

July 31, 2013


MD Alam: Human Race is Under Attack, a great conversation between MD Alam and Dexter Augustus Mae on Face Book. Topics: Million Muslim March on 9/11/13 in Washington DC. 1st July 2013.

Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on July 1, 2013 at 6:00 AM Comments comments (1)

MD Alam: Human Race is Under Attack, a great conversation between MD Alam (http://www.facebook.com/md4us) and Dexter Augustus Mae (https://www.facebook.com/#!/dexter.a.mae) on Face Book. Topics: Million Muslim March on 9/11/13 in Washington DC. 1st July 2013.

[Conversation took place on June 18, 2013]

MD Alam: Dexter Augustus Mae - Why don’t you call me @ 202-618-0048? I want to ask you few more questions to you.

June 18 at 2:35pm • Like

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Dexter Augustus Mae: Seriously...you want to talk to me? I shall contemplate the offer, although I do not understand why...out of all the other Patriots that have posted here you wish to single me out? You will not find an sympathetic ear with me I assure you. This march you are planning is disrespectful, and you try to do it under the banner of "fear"...Americans view this date as a date of mourning, and what you are doing tramples on the lives lost that day. But as I said I may call you, out of curiosity if nothing else.

June 18 at 2:59pm

Dexter Augustus Mae: Instead of marching to demand people stop speaking truthfully about your “religion”, June 18 at 2:13pm

o MD Alam: Dear Deaxter, where and when you saw at our AMPAC (American Muslim Political Action Committee) we are speaking about our Religion Islam? First of all dude, you are wrong, AMPAC is a Political Movement and sorry it is not a religion platform. We are not here to have a religious debate, indeed we are here to continue a political debate, if you believe you can carry a real political conversation and or debate, by all means you are welcome at anytime.

 

o Dexter August Mae: why don’t you march one million strong denouncing Islamic terror attacks against innocent citizens?

 

o MD Alam: Of course that is a great question and I am agreed with you 300% that we must March and strongly denouncing the Terror Attack, but your question does not make any sense of “Islamic Terror Attack”. There is no such thing called Islamic Terror Attack. May be a person or any groups who have Islam as their faith, has nothing to do with Islamic Terror. Man, look, If a Christian or Jewish conduct a Terror Attack would we called it as Christian Terror or Jewish Terror? NO, Of Course not. A group or person never represent a whole religion, then tell me when a Priest committed a sexual assault dose that represent that whole faith group is assaulting or it is just that so called corrupted priest fault only? Or a Pope when he is getting on a sex scandal or sexual abuse does that makes the whole religious group’s fault? If not then, when an idiot individual who may call himself as a Muslim, like that corrupted Priest or corrupted Pope, that should not make the whole religion’s fault. Don’t you understand this logic or why don’t you get it? Are you an Idiot? I am sorry, there are millions of you out there who doesn’t get it. And they all are may be idiots or must be ignorant.

 

o Dexter August Mae: Why don’t you denounce the 109 verses in the holy writings of your Koran that dictate hate, murder, and violence against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to your murderous religion led by a prophet who is a documented pedophile and mass murderer?

 

o MD Alam: Look at you, what disgusted me when I told you earlier that AMPAC is here for a Political cause and it is a political platform, yet you brought nonsense idiotic stupid topics right in it. Don’t you get this you idiot? We are talking about Million Muslim March for the Solidarity of Humanity to establish Peace, Harmony and Justice through a Civil Right Movement and now you are bringing my Islamic Bible – the Quran and it’s verses. You stupid you don’t have knowledge about your own religion and you are talking about other’s religion.

 

o MD Alam: Despite the fact that you do not know what in the Quran, however, there is no such thing in the Quran that teaches hate, murder or violence, You believe it or not, it’s up to you, despite the fact that some stereo-typed Anti-Islamic and Islam-Phobic special groups fabricated and propagated against Islam, Islam is a Religion of Peace and it teaches Love, Respect and Dignity and it ordain you and refrain you from wrong doing. Many idiots out there who just love to speak nonsense and don’t even know what the heck they are talking about.

 

o MD Alam: Now, let me tell you something, I personally feel very sorry for you as because you are bringing my prophet in the conversation and in a very wrong way. You are telling me what or not documented about my Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) [prophet who is a documented pedophile and mass murderer]. This is complete wrong, My Prophet was called “Al-Amin – the Truthful one” he was the one who brought blessing in Mecca during the dark age and now you are today, even irrelevantly, in a political march you are simply bringing this stupid question from your sick stupid mind. What iis wrong with you people? When MD Alam and his group AMPAC – American Muslim Political Action Committee is Marching against Fear and Marching for Humanity, all of you here spreading hates and stereotyping despite the facts. Once again, there are so many religious groups and so many modern Islamic scholars like – doctors and professors (from American University) go ahead debate them. As I am not an Islamic Scholar and I am really not sure what Verse from the Quran you are talking about, can you please be more specific and then we both can do the research about what you just said about 109 verses from the Quran.

 

o MD Alam: My prophet was not a the one who is truly a pedophile and was not a mass murderer, may be documented pedophile and mass murderer by those even who mis-documented the Bible and destroyed actual bible. I am sorry my friend. I am not here for this religion perfection, yet, let’s move on and let us speak about the March.

 

o Dexter: Why don’t you call a national press conference to proclaim to Muslims worldwide that murder, torture, and destruction of buildings and property belonging to other religious groups in the name of Islam is WRONG and does not represent your religion?

 

o MD Alam: That is correct Dexter, nice on this one, Yes, I can call a National Press Conference to proclaim to Muslims worldwide that Murder, Torture and Destruction of Buildings and Property belonging to other religion groups in the name of Islam is WRONG and that does not represent my religion. I am fully agreed with you on this one buddy. However, those who are doing it once again they do not represent my religion. Religion is a complete separate unique entity and neither any individual nor any group represents Islam. Islam itself represented by the Holly Quran and the Quran is the Bible and take the Quran as what is Islam. Do not take as what is John Doe is saying and doing by the name of Islam. Islam has nothing to do what is represented by Fricken John Doe (i.e – Stupid Saddam of Iraq, Idiot Bin Laden of Saudi, Tyron Gaddaffi of Lybia, Un-Just Ruler Mubarak of Egypt, Assad of Syria, and members of Al-Qayada). This people do not represent Islam at all. This special group is a shame for humanity; they all killed Millions of men and women regardless of their religion. In facts, they all are for money and power like Bush and Blair. So do not mix Apple and Orange please. Try to learn how to respect other people religion. It’s not me and us here to talk about your religion. Of course not. I really do not care but I pray for the best of the Humanity and I would expect that you do not talk about my religion in a negative way, because AMPAC and Million Muslim March is not here in USA to establish Islam, yet we are here to establish Muslim Americans Political rights as like every other American Citizen. Period. Do you understand? And I do care about my fellow American citizens and I do have respect for every religions and that is a direct order in the Quran to respect other’s religion. (If you want I can give you reference – in future)

 

 

o Dexter: Why don’t you vow to stop participating in zakat in your mosques until your imams stop funneling that money to fund terror? Your decision to tithe a portion of your income through zakat, which our government has proven, is funding Islamic terror, MAKES YOU A FINANCIER AND THEREFORE, ENABLER OF TERRORISM.

 

o MD Alam: Dexter, you do not know the TRUTH. I see you have a valid point and I do have the same valid point as well. Yes, it is a good question but the Zakat money never ever used for funding terror. This is bull shit. Bull shit false flag and many other interest group and anti- Islamic group and Islam-Phobic group all propagated and plotted all this fabricated terrorist group and their fairy fund. Look, I have been conducting my own research against this Terror Fund since 2001, no luck I failed to find even one incident. So do not hold some Mythical fairy shit of propaganda against Islam and Zakat and if you really want to know more about it why don’t you grab your own research and see what you will find.

 

o MD Alam: I have fully respect of our government and Government System, however, there are some people working in our government once again, it’s some individuals (like those John Doe compare to those in the previous answer) and they do not represent our government at all, are corrupted and are simply anti-Muslim. I am sorry for them and simply they are influenced by third party not by our government. Let me give an irrelevant example: New York State Governor was involved in Sex Scandal with Prostitute and he was fired same as Kansas State Attorney General had the same reason to be fired. See, it proves that nothing wrong with our government system, it is simply individuals, and these individuals do not really represent the Government, still they all are responsible for their own actions only. Another irrelevant example: there are so many propagandas against Muslims in USA by media and by Islam-Phobic group, yet every single month in the U.S.A many Muslims are getting their Citizenship through Naturalization process and honestly I am so much convinced about our Government and Government System. In this example, if the INS Employee is a Racist may be he or she will treat Muslim in different way, and that individual definitely does not represent our Government as like Eliot Spitzer prostitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer_prostitution_scandal) scandal or Paul J. Morrison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison). So, Hear me clearly, when I talk about individual I do not mix them with our Government System in no shape or in no manner.

 

o MD Alam: Now, do not give me wrong, in some special case, there are some individual who may have interest or third party influence and if they come and they do wrong against any group I do like to do a whistle Blower job and I am ready for it and trust me I served in the Military and I have seen that enough to speak about some wrong doing of our government employee not our Government.

 

o MD Alam: So, Dexter, either you beleive me or not, either you take this serious example or not, I am telling you that Zakat what you just said is nothing but a fairy tales and plotted case only.

 

o Dexter: Your silence regarding all of the above,….combined with the fact that you:

have murdered 270 million people in the 1400 year history of islam.

 

o MD Alam: May be I should learn some Islamic History, which I never heard and I don’t even know where are you getting this 270 Million people? I beleive it may be more, did you add all those people that Saddam Hussein’s relatives including his own Son in law, nephew, brothers? Did you add all hose Muslims that are being killed by Hafiz Al-Assad in Syria?

 

o MD Alam: It is so funny that you are questioning and telling me that I did kill and murdered those 270 Million people. Just look back your question. You are nothing but a freak. Let’s say your question is technically correct, if it is correct, and then let me ask you few questions, ready? Remember, those Priest and Popes? If and when they sexually assault and sexually abuse kids, teen agers and or adults or sexually harassed – can I say that you are doing it and you are responsible for it? When Rapping, Kidnapping, Abducting, Shooting & Killing, Drug Dealing, Teen Prostitution, Robbery, Violence and you name it........happening in America and, maybe it is done by either a Jewish, or a Christian or an Atheist or even by an LGBT Member does that automatically makes that faith group or special group or non-faith group responsible or it is only the one who is committing this evil and satanic acts? The media and no one is talking about it and not labeling as a group, yet you already labeled and generalized it. It’s so deadly wrong. You guys are drunk and drug addicted and do not see the truth only depends on the corporate Media and special Televised Propagandas.

 

o Dexter: Committed over 19 thousand deadly terror attacks since 911….

 

o MD Alam: I am not sure about it and I need to do some basic research, however, you are mixing two separate things together. Terror Attack and 9/11. Let me tell you where did you get this number 19K and I have different positions on 9/11 so we are not going to agree on this with each other. I just want to ask you a very serious question: How much do you know about Building # 7? Can you please tell me about Building 7? Just do you understand that Black Box of Plane was destroyed yet our report shows that they found “PASSPORTS” I wondered what is that passports made of? As a Veteran of Iraq War and I have lost few of my friends on 9/11, I am sorry for those 3K individuals who lost their lives and those families who lost their loved ones, still it does not add up to my educated mind that how the CNN News reported building 7 was collapsed, yet still it was standing tall and looking good? The last question about 9/11: How and where in the world you heard that 2 Planes Destroyed 3 Buildings? And can you please name the 3rd building besides twin towers?

 

o Dexter: Insist that Constitutional law be replaced by Sharia law,

 

o MD Alam: Who told you about Sharia Law? How much do you really know about Sharia Law?

 

• MD Alam: Sharia is an Arabic term for Law. Sharia Law is doubled there as law. Let me ask you a question….What is the translation of Law in German (Gesetz), Russian (Закон), Spanish (Ley), Arabic (Sharia) and Bangla (আইন)? Do you see as because the Law is represented differently in different languages so it is very natural without knowing the term to be scared and be idiotic about the law itself? Isn’t it?

• MD Alam: Sharia is the Arabic translation for Law. So I get simply mad when someone idiots come and start talking about Saria and started calling it Saria law.

• MD Alam: Look, Muslims, Christians, Jewish, Hindu, Buddha, Sikh, Catholic, Baptist, Mormon, Protestant, Gay, Lesbian, Homosexual, Atheist, non- religious, extremist – religious all makes this country and we all are Americans. If you have problem with this statement then I don’t wish to have any more conversation with you. One nation with many colors, many languages, many religions (freedom of religion) mainly (it was in the constitution – a Christian Nation) don’t care about who you are. So why all of you here differentiating between Americans and Muslims?

• MD Alam: This is what I believe, not all Americans should be Muslims, and not all Muslims (in the world) should be Americans, however, All Muslims in America should be American. Similarly, not all Christians (in the world) should be American, but all Christians in American should be American and so on. Correct me if I am wrong. Hence, here you are denouncing and don’t want to think that “Muslims here in USA as Americans” that is wrong. Not only wrong big time very wrong.

• MD Alam: Every country has a system either good or bad. Here in U.S.A we have a system too. The system is equal for all. I have no problem with the system, yet I am having problem with many ignorant and idiot. Actually it is not my problem, it is the problem of our media system. You right Muslims rights were not taken away, but tell me how many even Sikh were killed after 9/11 as because they have beard and they wear turban? Did you know that many were killed at the brought day light? Did you know that many people were send to Guantanamo even without any due process and they all were Muslims Americans?

 

o MD Alam: Dexter, you are wrong, very wrong, we are not here to do anything with Sharia. I am not even going to call it as “Sharia Law”. Because that is a stupid thought and there is not a single prove of the Sharia Law in our court system. And FYI (You dumb) Sharia is a way of life for Believers (According to the Quran). How to lead life – a sets of moral responsibilities. Dude, constitution is our American way of Life and it has nothing to do with contradiction or replacement with Sharia. You stupid do some research do not be a silly one to be laughed at. Okey?

 

o Dexter: You have have 35 islamic terror training camps on American soil.

 

o MD Alam: WHO CARES? What that to do with AMPAC Million Muslim March and I really do not care and I do not have any tickle about it. If that is true then Government needs to shut that down. No civilized people allow “Terror Training” Nether me Nor AMPAC”. We all need to address that if so. I am with you and let me know what can I do to help you on that eliminating those activities if it is really existed. And I would totally leave that on our Government. Terror Training Camps are no good for Humanity regardless it is on American soil or non-American soil.

 

o Dexter: Your religion, through something called “taqiyya” supports your right to lie in order to advance your religion

 

o MD Alam: Dude, I don’t really know what is Taqiyya. I will do some research on it. I do not speak Arabic or it is not my Mother Tongue, and clearly, I really have no clue what are you talking about. But I know something in the Quran which teaches you that “In case of extreme situation, if one lie save a life then you may do it, but it has to be justified, remember, Lie is a great sin and it is not permitted in Islam except and only and only when lie saves a life. I never ever heard in my whole life as a Muslim such thing that gives you the right to lie to advance the Religion. Completely, wrong concept, sorry, but I am observing that you have some word knowledge through Propagandas not the actual true knowledge. Seriously dude......let me tell you a story about the danger of some words terms of different language without meaning. [Story: One guy from Bangladesh and he does not speak English at all and he only know four English Words – 1. Yes, 2. No, 3. Very Good.]. This guy even does not know what does Yes, No, Very Good meaning either. But he just knows the words itself. In the story, there is an American Police man, Now, the Police he stopped that Bangladeshi guy and asking his some questions. So the Bangladeshi Guy feels very proud of himself that the Police is talking to him, so he wanted to speak English to the Police. Unfortunate, he just knows those four words: Yes, No, Very Good.

o Now the Police asked him: Did you Slapped on the President Face? He replied, Yes and he was so proud he thought he is smart that he is talking to the police, but he has no idea what the police is talking about. Now the Police tells him: If you want I can let you be free and you can get your citizenship. So now the man has to answer something, he knows the second word .....he just replied no. Then the police was very surprised and looked at him and tells him “Then you are under arrest I am talking you to Jail. The man was so happy, and he started laughing and shaking his hand with the police and telling him his last two words....”VERY GOOD”.....the police did not know what to do, after the fact the police found that this guy just came to USA yesterday and he has no idea what the police was talking about. ] Dude....what are you learning from this jokes or tales? Do not mess with something which you do not know, find your own way to research before even you say something. So my suggestion to Millions of my fellow Americans I am not here to mis-informed you, however, do your own homework and research before you fall in trap like that Bangladeshi guy who only knew four English Words and did used it with the police officer. Please be justified don’t be a victim of dis-information.

 

o Dexter: push eliminate our 1st Amendment by making negative speech about your religion a crime in this country ( the reason you want this speech stopped is because it is truth substantiated by your own Koran and record throughout history)

 

o MD Alam: Who is eliminating our 1st Amendment? When I said our 1st Amendment you know it’s includes me and rest of 7 Million Americans. Don’t you understand this? We are not here to eliminate the freedom of speech. We are here to practice our freedom of speech. Don’t you realized that it’s protects my freedom of rights as well? What is your problem dude? Seriously, you are mixing apple with orange. In the first place who give you authority to speak negative about someone else religions? Who is telling you to negative speech about my religion? Why don’t you mind your own business? I understand that 1st Amendment give you the right to speak bad about GOD, SON of GOD, Ibrahim, David, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed, however, why would you speak negative about others’ faith? Can you show me one Muslim....I mean it, 1 single Muslim who may have talked/spoken negative or against any one or any entity including GOD, Virgin Marry, Jesus, Ibrahim, David, Moses and Muhammed? It is the best character of a good Muslim like me (MD Rabbi Alam) that even with the power of 1st Amendment of our constitutional rights we will never ever be speaking any negativity of those entity, indeed, we may talk about the commonality and the differences in a civilized manner. Why would a gentle and a civilized person would act like uncivilized and would at first place talk bad against other people’s faith?

 

o MD Alam: Dexter, I do not care what do you think about Islam, Dude, I can tell you it’s a solid religion of Peace and Love and practice and worshiping to go closer to God....(in my reference...God the Father), I am sorry we do not beleive in Son – and Father relationship as conjunction to Christianity, but that does not nullify the best of Jesus and the God and that does not ignore the miracle of Jesus and his teaching of truth and Religion. AS a Muslim I beleive we are more Christian than Million of Existed Christian. We as Muslim fully beleive in Jesus as he is also our Prophet and the Quran has the best chapter for him and the Quran proudly announced that “Jesus and his Mother Virgin Mary and their family is the best of all” and As Quran teaches us that we cannot be a true believes until we beleive on all the prophets. PERIOD. You can keep your negativity about Islam it’s your call but if you do read the meaning of Quran and with an open mind you will find the difference what you know about now and what is the reality and facts. If you want you can hear from YouTube and it’s all free. DUDE, DO NOT DEPENDS ON FOX.

 

o Dexter: WHY YOU HAVE A PUBLIC RELATIONS ISSUE AND WHY SO MANY AMERICANS DO NOT TRUST YOU?

 

o MD Alam: I do not care about who is supporting Islam or not. Islam is the truth and Peace. When someone looks for the Truth and peace he or she will find it easily. Listen, it is harder to wake-up a person who is pretending to be sleeping than a real sleeping person. I hope you understand, as because the person who is pretending, he will not respond but who is in deep real sleeping mode, you try to wake him/her up, he or she will be wake up soon. Dude, Americans are too much depending on FOX buddy. BTW, I did not understand you, the first part of your question. What do you mean by “Why do you have a Public a Relation issue?” We do not have any public relation issue. Once Again....it is all because of FOXXXXXXXXESSSS NEWSSSSSSSSS.

 

o Dexter: WHY SO MANY AMERICANS DO NOT SUPPORT YOU AND DO NOT WANT YOU IN OUR COUNTRY?

 

o MD Alam: Dexter, now I am really confused. I understand that so many Americans do not support Muslims, I get it, because of FOX, however, many Muslim Americans around 7 Millions, oh, by the way, do you think all 7 Million live in one place or they have neighbors? Dude, get out of your home, turn that FOX NEWS off and walk to a neighborhood where you may find some Muslims and go ahead ask those neighbors, they will be able to give you real news and message about Muslim Americans not Damn FOX NEWS. I beleive Islam in America is not a PROBLEM, except FOX. Listen, Dexter, and exactly you right, there are so many of you just like you who watches to much FOX but do not walk around in the neighborhoods and do not find out about real character of Muslim Americans and that is the problem and they pro-claimed themselves as racist and let me tell you “Racism is a Hate-Born of Ignorance and nothing is more sad and pathetic than an Ignorant Man”

 

o MD Alam: USA is my country and our country as well. We all are immigrated here, someone came 300 years ago and may be someone came 3 years ago. After 100 years the one who came 3 years ago, it would be 103 years for him, don’t you got it all idiots? And be honest with you, it does not matter who wants what. It’s all the matter who will survive. I am sure Islam and Muslim will surely survive with dignity because of their honesty, loyalty and hardworking and following the 10 commandments of Old Testament and remember Muslim and Islam is nothing but the Modern Jewish or Modern Christianity. It’s all about respect to Creator and we do not worship and pray to Muhammed our Prophet. We all pray to the Creator GOD and through and by following the 10 Commandments we will be saved. Don’t you see that our western world is doing all anti-Christ activities including Homo-sexuality, Fornication, Adultery and what not? Muslims are protected through the teach of the Quran and I am surely believing that Muslim Race (Religion of Peace and Justice) will bring the prosperity for this world and Muslim will join Jesus when he come back to fight the evil and devil what is existed today and I am sorry irrelevant comment: If in next 200 years the LGBT Community become 50% of the Population, guess what? The Human Race will be in challenged like the Dinosaurs...and we will be destroyed because who Gays and Lesbians cannot make a baby and they will actually be the one of the main factor of destruction of human race. And guess what Jesus brought those 10 Commandments and up to day July 1, 2013 how many of us really following those 10 Commandments?

• Suggestions: “Don’t worry about the Muslims and Islam, worry about yourself and see where you fall and see how we can be prosperous for this world, the Human Race is under attack by Satan and we all need to be united and fight that Satan together as a Humanity” – MD Rabbi Alam, Candidate, United States Senate, 2016. July 1, 2013, Kansas City, Missouri, USA.

 

A Conversation between MD Alam and Angela Vinson Preston: What is Sharia? June 11/2013:

Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on June 24, 2013 at 11:15 PM Comments comments (0)

A Conversation between MD Alam and Angela Vinson Preston: What is Sharia? June 11/2013:

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: what is your opinion on Muslims entering this country unchecked?

 

 

MD Alam: What do you mean by “Muslims are entering this country ”UNCHECKED” ?

 

Do you know how many hours it takes a typical muslim to cross immigration? Do you know just simply flying from one U.S City to another – what is the time line for someone with a Muslim Name takes for figuring out the System Holding?

 

 

Answer to your question: Muslim are entering this country following the dully immigration process and with full checklist. You are wrong. They are not not entering this country un-checked.

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: Since you state there are differences between sharia and sharia law. It is my understanding that if you are not a true Muslim of Islam then you are not Muslim.

 

MD Alam: Sharia is an Arabic term for Law. Sharia Law is doubled there as law. Let me ask you a question….What is the translation of Law in German (Gesetz), Russian (Закон), Spanish (Ley), Arabic (Sharia) and Bangla (আইন)? Do you see as because the Law is represented differently in different languages so it is very natural without knowing the term to be scared and be idiotic about the law itself? Isn’t it?

 

 

MD Alam: Sharia is the Arabic translation for Law. So I get simply mad when someone idiots come and start talking about Saria and started calling it Saria law.

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: So I have checked AMPAC out and still do understand why you would call yourself an American and not speak up if you feel you are not being treated fairly! I saw Muslims speak out after 9/11/01.

 

 

MD Alam: See Angela, here is the problem what you just said. You are telling me why I am not speaking out if I am an American while I am not treated fairly and very next line you are saying Muslim spoke out after 9/11. If you analyze your friendly and gentle and smart question then you will see that you are saying American and Muslim are two different entity. Why is that? American should be one entity. And multiple religion should be it’s part including LGBT, Atheist. Am I correct? So you are saying no Muslims should be American and or No Americans should be Muslims? Is this what you are saying? Look, Muslims, Christians, Jewish, Hindu, Buddha, Sikh, Catholic, Baptist, Mormon, Protestant, Gay, Lesbian, Homosexual, Atheist, non- religious, extremist – religious all makes this country and we all are Americans. If you have problem with this statement then I don’t wish to have any more conversation with you. One nation with many colors, many languages, many religions (freedom of religion) mainly (it was in the constitution – a Christian Nation) don’t care about who you are. So why all of you here differentiating between Americans and Muslims?

 

 

MD Alam: This is what I believe, not all Americans should be Muslims, and not all Muslims (in the world) should be Americans, however, All Muslims in America should be American. Similarly, not all Christians (in the world) should be American, but all Christians in American should be American and so on. Correct me if I am wrong. Hence, here you are denouncing and don’t want to think that “Muslims here in USA as Americans” that is wrong. Not only wrong big time very wrong.

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: They (Muslims) were not removed from this country no rights were taken away.

 

 

MD Alam: Every country has a system either good or bad. Here in U.S.A we have a system too. The system is equal for all. I have no problem with the system, yet I am having problem with many ignorant and idiot. Actually it is not my problem, it is the problem of our media system. You right Muslims rights were not taken away, but tell me how many even Sikh were killed after 9/11 as because they have beard and they wear turban? Did you know that many were killed at the brought day light? Did you know that many people were send to Guantanamo even without any due process and they all were Muslims Americans?

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: Where do you come from MD Alam as I notice you have broken English and are you a legal citizen of the US? Just asking.

 

 

MD Alam: I am originally from Bangladesh. I was born there and raised there. I came to this country and I joined in the Military and I served this country. I am a Veteran of Iraq War. I was a Non-Commissioned officer and I was deployed both in Iraq and Afghanistan. English is my 5th Language and I know I have broken English. Just wondering, No offense, Have you served this country?

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: And since you bring civil rights into this please explain to me why one would migrate to the United States and then American citizens who were born here and raised here are forbidden to have God in our military songs as it has been for years because we may offend Muslims.

 

 

MD Alam: I have no problem having God in our Military songs, even I never think about it even I never heard about it that someone has problems. If really someone having problems then they must be stupid and idiots and ignorant. Look at your sentence structure as you are saying “Because we may offend Muslims” is this something came from any Muslims authorities or once again it is the idiotic Media fabrication and media propaganda to create hate against Muslims and Islam in America?

 

 

MD Alam: Nothing wrong for someone like me to born in a different country and then migrate and then serve this country and be a proud American and talk about civil rights. Just answer me how our founding fathers came this country? They all migrated to this country. Its all about timing. Don’t you even forget, that your ancestor came this country either from East Europe or west Europe. So we all are immigrants in this beautiful country and just we all are having generational gap. So, try to respect others even someone coming this country just now and someone may have came this country 30-300 years ago.

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: If you are about peace then why would my God offend you?

 

 

MD Alam: Who told you that “GOD” offend me? We never said that GOD offends us. Once again it is your own fairy tales which was spreaded by so called corporate media and some Islam Phobic Media and anti-islamic group. We respect GOD even more than you do. If I may ask – Do you know that “Many Many Americans even cusses at GOD, yet if you can show me one example of a Muslim cussing at GOD, then I will say, I was wrong. Listen to this very carefully, “Muslim Are very GOD fearing people” in general and the description of Muslim and Islam you know is fabricated, so pick up some topics and study your own and then you will see the difference. In conjunction to this: If you have to speak about Russian Language then think you have to study about the Russian language same as if you want to speak about or against of Islam then know what is our religion really talking about just don’t pick up what some stupid is taking about it.

 

 

Angela Vinson Preston: See tables are turned when Americans have to comply so as not hurt someone's feelings, last time I checked we have this little thing called freedom of speech, and as Americans are losing this freedom, Muslims are trying to enforce their freedom of speech.

 

 

MD Alam: See here is the problem again, it is not Muslim are trying to enforce their freedom of speech. It’s all about Muslim are saying we are part of America and we must have the same freedom of speech. So don’t you believe that Muslim should have freedom of speech? We are not talking about a different freedom of speech, we are talking about same freedom of speech that every single American does have. You tell me is it wrong for Muslims Americans speaking up for their Freedom of speech? What do you mean by as Americans are losing this Freedom of speech? Is it Muslims FAULT that American are losing their freedom of speech or something wrong with this system itself? Just think about this deeply don’t blame others.

 

 

Advise: Please do your home work and learn about new thing and before talk about it or talking against it you must have to have solid knowledge. Don’t make yourself a silly and foolish one while talking about others.

 

Thank you for your response and if you have any further clearing you may call me (816) 372-1873.

 

Thank you. MD Alam.

 

 

 

Find more details about MD Alam here: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/MD_Rabbi_Alam

 

Our thoughts and prayers with the victims of Boston Marathon Tragedy: AMPAC

Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on April 17, 2013 at 11:50 PM Comments comments (0)



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

AMERICAN MUSLIM POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (AMPAC)

April 17th, 2013

 

The American Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC) wishes to express its sympathy for the victims of the bombings in Boston, and condemn this heartless act.

 

AMPAC calls on President Obama to appoint a committee made up of prominent people of unimpeachable integrity, such as David Ray Griffin, Paul Craig Roberts, and William Pepper, to investigate this crime. Allegations that authorities were running terror drills that mimicked the actual bombing have raised questions in the minds of millions of people about whether this might have been a false-flag incident like the Operation Gladio bombings in Europe. These questions deserved to be answered honestly, transparently, and in detail.

 

9/11/2013, Million Muslim March on DC! Foreword by M.Roberts.

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9/11/2013, Million Muslim March on DC! Foreword by M.Roberts.

 

By Fred Brownbill on February 2, 2013in Constitution Legal Watch

 

Wake up Americans to the very real threat that Islam poses to our freedom and liberties and to the very foundation that America was founded on.

 

This is their victory march. They have their man in the white house, they will pass laws to take away our right and ability to defend ourselves, they teach our children that allah is the only God and we allow it, now this.

 

I guess if Americans allow it, we deserve to be subjugated.

Patriots, I am absolutely outraged at this! Let’s make enough noise so they’ll be forced to cancel it. They’re claiming to be “victims” but it’s a victory march, pure and simple, and they know it. That they chose this day, 9/11, to plan a march on our capitol, with an agenda you’ll see if you read the article, is unconscionable and unacceptable. It’s a slap in our face, and we have plenty of time to pressure our leaders to stop this. I’m quite sure they don’t want to see a counter-march.

The article below was written by Dr. Kevin Barrett.

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Dr. Kevin Barrett, a Ph.D. Arabist-Islamologist, is one of America’s best-known critics of the War on Terror. Dr. Barrett has appeared many times on Fox, CNN, PBS and other broadcast outlets, and has inspired feature stories and op-eds in the New York Times, the Christian Science Monitor, the Chicago Tribune, and other leading publications. Dr. Barrett has taught at colleges and universities in San Francisco, Paris, and Wisconsin, where he ran for Congress in 2008. He is the co-founder of the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance, and author of the books Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie (2007) and Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters (2009). His website is www.truthjihad.com.

 

Everyone knows that AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, is the most powerful lobby in Washington.

 

But starting next September 11th, a new group called AMPAC, the American Muslim Political Action Committee, will challenge AIPAC’s stranglehold on American political life.

 

AMPAC will be forcefully announcing its presence with a “Million Muslim March” on the White House on September 11, 2013. The goal, announced at AMPAC’s press conference in New York:

 

“We at AMPAC (American Muslim Political Action Committee) are planning a historic event for 9/11/13. One million Muslims will march to Washington D.C. and demand that our civil rights be protected by our government. We are demanding that laws be enacted protecting our First Amendment rights. We are asking President Obama to fulfill his promise from his first campaign for the Presidency of a transparent government. Lastly we are asking for the establishment of a real 9/11 Commission to reveal the truth to the American people.”

 

AMPAC founder M.D. Rabbi Alam, a well-known Missouri Democratic Party organizer, points out that American Muslims, like other Americans, were targeted on 9/11. More than 60 Muslims were murdered in the explosive demolitions of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11, and a mosque in the South Tower was annihilated. Alam points out that “Muslim and non-Muslim alike were traumatized by 9/11, but we as Muslims continue twelve years later to be victimized by being made the villains.”

 

American courts have traditionally held that the Bill of Rights guarantees that all religions must be treated equally by the government. Alam cites “the ‘war on terrorism’ in Islamic countries, Congressional hearings on Islam in America, and changes to the NDAA” as infringements of the First Amendment right to freedom of religion.

 

 

AMPAC organizers also argue that the US government and media have lied about 9/11 and its aftermath. According to the AMPAC press release, “These lies told to the American population have made it impossible for us to do true Dawa (Islamic outreach).”

The attack on American Muslims’ free speech actually appears to have begun a few days before 9/11, when the FBI raided key Muslim organizations and shut down their computer servers. The FBI’s raids preemptively prevented Muslims from freely expressing and disseminating their view of 9/11: That it was an inside job, presumably orchestrated by Israel and its American agents.

 

Polls show that more than 80% of Muslims globally, and two-thirds of American Muslims, believe that 9/11 was an inside job – and these polls undoubtedly understate the real numbers. Yet the corporate media, dominated by Jewish Zionists, has refused to allow Muslims’ perspective on 9/11 to even be heard, much less debated. To this day, most Americans falsely believe that Muslims accept the official story of 9/11.

 

9/11 was used to shut down the free speech rights of Muslim Americans – and not just about 9/11. Sami al-Arian, America’s leading Muslim political organizer, was harassed and imprisoned after 9/11 for the crime of publicly stating his strong opposition to the apartheid state of Israel. At his trial, jurors were swayed by graphic footage of Israelis maimed by suicide bombers. The prosecution implied that al-Arian was responsible for these acts of violence simply because he was Palestinian, Muslim, and opposed to Israeli apartheid.

 

Another American Muslim leader, Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah of Detroit, Michigan, was murdered by the FBI in 2009 in reprisal for his statements criticizing US imperialism and injustice. His body was riddled with 19 bullet holes in an FBI raid reminiscent of the FBI murders of Fred Hampton and other Black Panthers in the 1960s.

 

Imam Abdullah is not the only American Muslim killed by US authorities for his political views. Among the better-known cases is that of scholar Anwar al-Awlaki, who, along with his son and grandson, were murdered by cowardly drone strikes in Yemen. Al-Awlaki was imprisoned, tortured, mischaracterized as a “terrorist,” and finally murdered by US authorities due to his outspoken opposition to the 9/11-triggered war on Islam.

 

Another influential, politically-engaged American Muslim, the scientist Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, was kidnapped, raped and tortured by US authorities who disapproved of her political views. Like so many other American Muslim leaders, she was tried in a kangaroo court on ridiculous trumped-up charges in order to silence her eloquent voice.

 

The FBI and other secret police agencies, along with Israeli Mossad spin-offs such as the ADL, have used both federal agents and hired criminals to infiltrate, surveil, and terrorize mosques since 9/11, chilling Muslims’ rights of free speech and free association. A key FBI goal has been to entrap young, naive Muslims into appearing complicit in FBI-concocted “terror plots.”

 

As of 2006, the US had already kidnapped and tortured more than 80,000 Muslims worldwide, according to the UK Guardian. Today, that number has undoubtedly grown into the hundreds of thousands. Virtually all are innocent of any acts of violence. Many have been targeted because they are the most charismatic and outspoken leaders, or the best organizers, in the Muslim community.

Faced with a reality reminiscent of the Jews’ situation in 1930s Nazi Germany, most American Muslims have been terrorized into silence. But today, more than a decade after 9/11, more and more are finding the courage to speak out.

 

Last year, AMPAC founder MD Rabbi Alam was targeted by the Zionist-dominated media for raising questions about Israel’s role in 9/11. Alam refused to be intimidated. Instead, he responded by founding AMPAC and launching plans for next year’s 9/11/2013 Million Muslim March on the White House.

 

Will AMPAC one day dislodge AIPAC from its throne? Only time will tell.

Meanwhile, stay tuned to http://ampacus.webs.com/ for updates on next September’s Million Muslim March.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/31/286487/million-muslim-march-on-white-house/

About Fred Brownbill

Fred Brownbill was born and raised in Rhodesia in 1955 before moving to South Africa in 1970 where he continued his education graduating from Christian Brothers College in 1973. He then returned to Rhodesia and fought on active service attached to a special anti-terrorist unit for seven years in that Country's terrorist war before taking the very good advice of others and leaving when Independence was announced and a Marxist Government under Robert Mugabe took over. Fred was Stateless and very unsettled and from 1980 travelled around much of the world on motorcycles while maintaining a residence in England for 14 years. He managed the largest motorcycle retail company in Europe during this period, and continued his travels as often as possible. Fred has raced motorcycles both as a drag racer and road racer, competing in Southern Africa and England . He immigrated to the United States in October of 1994, becoming a proud and legal U.S. citizen in 2003. Today, Fred works as a Deputy Sheriff in Florida. He is the President of the Save America Foundation. He is also a member of Oath Keepers and various other local and national Conservative Patriotic groups. He is active as a public speaker at different groups and locations. He has been interviewed on various different national radio and live internet radio and TV programs. His writings are published in many places and read and followed by tens of thousands of people in the States and abroad, and his message of freedom and liberty is an International message that gives hope to all those seeking freedom. He is married to Marty, an advisor to the Board of the SAF, and they have 2 daughters, one in California and the other in Florida. Both he and Marty are still each riding motorcycles, doing thousands of miles a year, and take as many trips both in the States and abroad when they can.

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3 Responses to 9/11/2013, Million Muslim March on DC! Foreword by M.Roberts.

johnFebruary 2, 2013 at 2:51 pm#

I never believed that I would actually watch Americans let their country slip away like this. Everybody has always believed that we would defend liberty. We have been psychologically pacified by the radicals. The truth is we were attacked by globalists with the aim of bringing America into the new world order. Muslims are as much a part of this effort as anything. They act as if they are victims, you cant say anything against a Muslim idea without being labeled as an Islamophobic or of course a bigoted racist. Last I checked it was not Muslims that were being labeled as extremists anymore, it is people that love America. You know the sad thing? There is a mosque right down the road from my house and I support their right to have it there as long as long as they adapt to and follow our laws. No one bothers them. That is not their objective however, we all know there intent is to fly their flag over our house plain and simple. What better way to do this than to Attack us, create a controversy surrounding the attack, play the same tactics used in the civil rights era by turning our values against us and keep pushing us in the dirt with names like Islamophobe. Its not like these people are sitting back and acknowledging the fact that they have rights here they have no where else. They say they are oppressed because they can not practice sharia law. Go to Saudi Arabia to practice sharia law. I will help you get there just so dont call me a bigot.

 

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MD Rabbi AlamFebruary 5, 2013 at 11:02 am#

http://beforeitsnews.com/9-11-and-ground-zero/2013/02/us-major-general-exposes-911-video-2439516.html

Dear fellow Citizens: I am so socked and stunned. Please watch this video of United States Ret. Major Gen. This Retired Major Gen. (U.S. Army) is asking few sets of questions. Among them #1. Who is behind 9/11 attack? #2. If our Government is involved with this 9/11 then what else they can do? – Sorry, This is MD Rabbi Alam and this is not my questions. I am just putting in paper what he just said. Don’t hate me. I am not the one be blamed. Simply I am the messenger of the video only.

MD Alam,

Candidate, United States Senate, 2016.

Founder, AMPAC

Feb 5, 2013

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luchadora41February 6, 2013 at 4:22 pm#

Wow, thanks for including the paragraph I wrote at the top of this article, about being outraged, because I absolutely am! After talking with Robert Spencer last night, he doesn’t seem to think this march will be stopped, but we sure can get out there with our own peaceful demonstration. I just finished watching Tom Trento of the United West interview MD Rabbi Alam, and it was a very enlightening interview. It’s clear that MD only tells the truth when it suits him, and his agenda is apparent.

 

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Fear of Isam: a study by Susan Brooks, Professor Chicago Theological Seminary

Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on February 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM Comments comments (0)

Professor, Chicago Theological Seminary: Susan Brooks, Fear of Islam: a study

People must know that there is a highly funded and well-studied plan to manufacture fear and hate toward Muslims and Islam in this country. Read the below story published by the Washington Post, which is discussing and reporting about a study made to investigate the origin of Islamophopia. From the study, someone should realize that the American people is like hypnotized into believing that the Muslims in this country are having a huge hidden agenda to dominate this nation and concur it. Misleading information and images of Muslims as violent, villains groups is the only materials feed to the public through media networks and film makers. The Million Muslim March is a movement that is trying to uncover the seal put on the public eyes blinding them from seeing or seeking the truth about the Muslims and Islam. The MMM movement is marching to the White House in Sep. 11th this year to bring an awareness of the growing hate toward Muslims and that the public must separate between what happened in 9/11/2001 and the rest of the Muslim population.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/fear-of-islam-a-study/2011/08/30/gIQAqkBhpJ_blog.html

 

Professor, Chicago Theological Seminary: Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite: Fear of Islam: a study

 

The Center for American Progress has just released an extensive report, Fear, Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America, detailing the “funders, organizations, and individuals who have contributed to the discourse on Islamophobia in this country. ” As the mapping of the money trail shows, the network created with these millions of dollars works to churn up the “exaggerated fear, hatred, and hostility toward Islam and Muslims” that is the very definition of Islamophobia.

 

Manufacturing fear is downright dangerous for the body politic of a country. This point has been made shockingly evident in the murderous rampage of right-wing Norwegian extremist, Anders Breivik, whose so-called “Manifesto” cited the purveyors of well-funded Islamophobia in the U.S. who are profiled in this report; Brevik cited some literally dozens of times. The CAP report quotes former CIA officer and terrorism consultant Marc Sageman, who argued that “’just as religious extremism is the infrastructure from which Al Qaeda emerged,’ the writings of these anti-Muslim misinformation experts are ‘the infrastructure from which Breivik emerged.’” Sageman adds that their rhetoric “is not cost-free.”

 

The cost of feeding fear is very high. One cost is to our physical safety. Keeping our country safe requires the cooperation, not the unfair demonization, of Muslim communities, who, working with law enforcement have been very helpful in preventing terrorism before it even starts. Thus, the industry of Islamophobia actually accomplishes the opposite of what its purveyors claim to want, a United States protected from violent extremism.

 

I want to highlight another cost, however. There is the cost of the spiritual danger that comes to a people from scapegoating a particular group, whether that group is defined by their race, their sexual orientation, or in this case, by their religion. There is a moral pollution that follows from creating a rabid insider/outsider mentality and stirring up unwarranted fears. This is the process by which some individuals or groups deliberately break the bonds of humanity, denying the fundamental relationship that defines us as human together. Acknowledging that others are human beings and worthy of respect for that reason alone is the foundation of morality and ethics. De-humanizing others is the complete opposition of that, and it undermines every other ethical effort we can make. We are tempted to give in to irrational fear, and that makes us think hateful thoughts and even sometimes do hateful things because we are taken over by the spirit of fear.

 

I think this is what the writer of 2nd Timothy was getting at. The epistles, in the New Testament, are very often advice to groups on how to get along with each other. The author writes, “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” (1:7)

 

I think it’s very important that the biblical text emphasizes that God gives us a “sound mind.” So much of the machinery of Islamophobia is irrational fear-mongering. If you stop and think about it for even a minute, the portrayal of the more than a billion Muslims around the world, including in the U.S., as all bent on “destroying Western civilization” is impossible on the face of it. Millions of Muslims live in the West, and have chosen to do so to better their own lives and those of their children, and frankly you really can’t get a billion people to all agree on anything anyway. It makes no sense.

 

The irrationality spills over into astonishingly inconsistent statements. In March of this year, Newt Gingrich, who continues to be a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, “bizarrely worried aloud that his two children would grow up in a “’secular atheist country, potentially dominated by radical Islamists.’” Two bogeymen, secular atheism and Islamic faith, polar opposites, become linked in the created world of fear.

 

As a Christian, I believe 2nd Timothy is right, the “spirit of fear” is not from God, it is not among the gifts God gives us to help create community, like love. I ask myself, frankly, about the state of souls of any Christian who would take part in these shocking anti-Muslim demonstrations like the one that took place in February of this year in Yorba Linda, California, as Muslim American families, including children, were arriving for a community fund-raiser. “Take your Sharia and go home, you terrorist lovers. Your hands are bloody! Your money is bloody! Get out! Terrorists! Terrorists! Terrorists!” The YouTube video of these protests appalled many people. How could some Americans treat each other like this for no more reason than they were of a different faith?

 

This is taking a toll on our country in terms of crediting each other with basic humanity. The CAP report notes that events like the one at Yorba Linda, vandalism at mosques, Quran burnings and street protests against Muslims are turning neighbor against neighbor. “Our nation is witnessing a rising tide in anti-Muslim sentiments. A Washington Post -ABC News poll last September showed that nearly half of Americans (49 percent) hold an unfavorable view of Islam, which is a 10 percent increase from October 2002.”

 

It is crucial, as the Fear, Inc. report documents, that we recognize that these increasing fears of Muslims by other Americans are manufactured for a particular political purpose, and that we challenge their lack of a factual base. The failure to do so will feed the myth that actual terrorists use, namely that Muslims are in a war with “the West” and their violent extremism is justified. We need to challenge these mythologies in order to reduce violence, and improve community and national safety.

 

As a Christian pastor, however, I also worry about those of my own faith who are falling into the trap of irrational fear of their Muslim neighbors and fellow citizens. This is not the biblically mandated way to create community, through the power of love and not fear.

 

Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite | Aug 30, 2011 11:13 AM

 

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YEAL9 wrote:

 

9/1/2011 7:57 AM EDT

And the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

The Muslim Conquest of India - 11th to 18th century

■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

and more recently

1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,483 and 925 in non combat roles. 99,901 – 109,143 Iraqi civilians killed as of 3/3/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

10) - Afghanistan: US troops 1,141 killed in action, 242 killed in non-combat situations as of 03/03/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, ...See More

YEAL9 responds:

 

9/1/2011 7:58 AM EDT

19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

rentianxiang wrote:

 

8/31/2011 1:35 PM EDT

 

The real manufacturers of fear are not the brave individuals daring to speak the truth about Islam, it is the multi-billion dollar Saudi propaganda machine that has invented the myth of Islamophobia to demonize anyone who dares to utter anything critical about Islam or to have the audacity to point out that a great deal of the violence and war and practically all of the terrorism taking place in the world involves Islam. Sudan Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Thailand, Indonesia, Russia, etc, are all seeing conflicts with participants who are inspired by their Islamic religion. This is not any kind of irrational fear or manufacturing of fear on the part of those who point this out. Not to mention the fact, that the real machinery of power around the world is operated by those who prefer to stick their heads in the sand about Islam or just simply are too afraid of what will happen if they dare to offend Muslims by confronting the real, not manufactured, problems that Islam is causing in both Muslim-majority and Muslim-minority countries. The terrorists, inspired by their religion, are manufacturing fear, not those who are merely pointing out the sources of their inspiration. I would really like to see a study of the amount of money pouring into Muslim hate-groups like the ISNA, MAS, and CAIR. Not to mention the thousands of Saudi-funded, i.e. radical Muslim, mosques that are receiving millions, if not billions, from their masters back in the Persian gulf. The real cost of people attempting to speak the truth is not caused by them, but rather those trying to stifle the speech of those brave enough to go against the politically correct movement that would rather see a country disintegrate than offend someone because of their belief in an ancient mythology. What is shameful is how we give the most hateful and regressive ideologies respect simply because they claim to fall under the umbrella of "religion." I have read the Quran (and the Bible which is a...See More

 

jlazz responds:

 

8/31/2011 2:01 PM EDT

 

Wow, first off, dude, paragraphs. Second, you really have no idea what the truth is.

This is the problem, people who are not experts in religion, political science, history, sociology, etc, think they "know" the truth. You don't call a florist to perform your heart surgery, yet you rely on actors on a TV show passing as news to tell you what to think about one of the most complex and nuanced issues of our time.

As for your reading of the Quran, if you set out to find something ugly then you can find it, just as you can find it in the Bible. But if you actually make an effort to understand the historical context of the text you will find it to be actually quite progressive for its time (and for that matter a long time after). Furthermore, like the Bible and the Torah, it must be interpreted by the reader, and like Christians and Jews Muslims are perfectly capable of reading it in light of modernity.

And for the record, the majority of terrorism is still not Islamic. The Tamil Tigers held that for a long time, then it was secular nationalist groups in Iraq. In the U.S., the security industry considers left-wing eco-terrorist groups to be the biggest problem, and law enforcement is intercepting far more nascent terrorist plots by radical right-wing groups as "Islamic" ones.

ThomasBaum responds:

 

8/31/2011 6:04 PM EDT.

jlazz

You wrote, "This is the problem, people who are not experts in religion, political science, history, sociology, etc, think they "know" the truth."

I have seen in my time that the so-called "experts" sometimes seem to know the least about something.

Just because someone has a pile of initials after their name does not necessarily mean much.

One need not be an "expert" to see and decide for themself rather than to rely on the "experts" to tell them what to think and do.

Secular1 responds:

 

8/31/2011 7:08 PM EDT

jlazz you wrote, "As for your reading of the Quran, if you set out to find something ugly then you can find it, just as you can find it in the Bible."

But ugly is ugly, one does not have set out look for ugly in each an every scripture. One doesn't have to set out the ugly in OT. When you read the fairy tale of Abrham/Ibrahim you find it in plain sight - him pimping his wife, not once but twice, bedding his wife's maid, then casting her away and her like a used TP.

Then you go on to say, "But if you actually make an effort to understand the historical context of the text you will find it to be actually quite progressive for its time (and for that matter a long time after)."

But isn't it true that the claim is that Koran had always existed or in your words "uncreated". If so why is the context important. If it always existed, then what is a person supposed to make of it say in 600 AD or for that matter 600BC?

Please enlighten us on these points.

jlazz responds:

 

9/1/2011 10:01 AM EDT

Thomas, trust me I know my share of idiot doctors so your point is well received, but still I think there is a significant problem with people doing absolutely no research on something aside from spending a couple hours online and then forming a crystal-clear opinion on the issue.

Secular, the idea that the Quran is uncreated is not uncontested, there was a rationalist position that was only roundly defeated when the caliph al-Ma'mun, mistakenly thinking that he as caliph held religious authority, tried to force it down the throats of the real religious authority, the scholarly class. The scholarly class won, and nobody from then on really took the caliph seriously as the religious authority. I actually argue the split can be traced back to the first caliph, Abu Bakr, but that's another show. Anyhow, the hadith scholars went too far in their literalism, giving rise to third approach somewhere in between.

But that's really beside the point, because it doesn't matter if or when it was created, it is still human minds that read it and must interpret it. It is clear from a contextual reading that some things were broad instructions applicable to all times and some were specific instructions for a given historical situation (Sura 9 comes to mind).

The challenge for Muslims is to figure out which are which, and that's the part that there is disagreement on. The progressives see the majority as subject to interpretation, while the hard-core traditionalists see it the other way. Both are justifiable positions, so it really comes down to the question of what a Muslim wants to be. They can be progressive, and many are. They can be traditionalist, and many are. But it is not the Quran that dictates that, it is the individual that makes the choice.

ThomasBaum wrote:

 

8/31/2011 11:48 AM EDT

Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite

You may or may not know, but Jesus had a hard time getting thru to the theologians of His day, as the saying goes, "the more things change, the more they stay the same".

TimYork wrote:

8/31/2011 10:16 AM EDT

Religions, like Islam, all of them, are a crime committed against humanity. Governments are not doing enough to protect people from this reaching in to people's minds. Also, modern governments have not done enough to totally replace any and all services now being provided by these cults. Religion has only persisted because of educational inadequacies. Public education has been corrupted by cultists.

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bobaluchowdury responds:

 

8/31/2011 10:36 AM EDT

We do not need mind police. It is the individual's job to decipher what is true to them.

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TimYork responds:

 

8/31/2011 7:10 PM EDT

Mind police, by definition, would be cultists!

rickru11 wrote:

8/31/2011 9:12 AM EDT

According to the Center for Security Policy:

“The primary organizations– what should be called the “Shariah Defense Lobby”– are the Center for American Progress(ThinkProgress), the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) with support from a handful of other far-left or Islamist bloggers and Washington lobbyists.

The “Shariah Defense Lobby” whitewashes and protects political, legal, military and religious doctrines of Shariah law (Islamic law) from scrutiny. One of its major goals is to silence all criticism of Islamist aggression, jihadist violence, or Shariah violations of human rights and civil liberties.”

Here’s what I see:

The relentless efforts of millions of people worldwide has forced the Organization of Islamic States and others that are bent on destroying individual liberty via Sharia, Marxism, Socialism and the like are spending billions to hold back the ocean of truth that is sinking their project.

Doing things right is expensive, but doing them wrong is unsustainable. George Soros is 81 years old he will be dead soon and his perverse passion for all that is evil will die with him. The millions that are criticizing Mohamedism, Sharia, Marxism, Socialism, Communism and every other elitist attempt to control us will continue to grow and the cost of combating the truth will continue to escalate until the proponents of evil are overwhelmed.

StephenGash wrote:

 

8/30/2011 8:00 PM EDT

When is it OK to point the finger at murderers who genocidally persecute minorities in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia etc while shouting Allah u ackbar? 3.3 million Christians killed merely for being Christian in Sudan alone, since 1950.

Let's not forget those terrorised in Thailand and the Philippines by Muslims - oh wait we already have.

Faced with this kind of theocratically inspired barnarity, those who bother to research Islam and its effects speak out. If the Western media actually did their job properly and fearlessly organisations like SIOA and SIOE would not need to exist.

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StephenGash wrote:

 

8/30/2011 7:59 PM EDT

When is it OK to point the finger at murderers who genocidally persecute minorities in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia etc while shouting Allah u ackbar? 3.3 million Christians killed merely for being Christian in Sudan alone, since 1950.

Let's not forget those terrorised in Thailand and the Philippines by Muslims - oh wait we already have.

Faced with this kind of theocratically inspired barnarity, those who bother to research Islam and its effects speak out. If the Western media actually did their job properly and fearlessly organisations like SIOA and SIOE would not need to exist.

JarradWinter wrote:

 

8/30/2011 4:23 PM EDT

What about the Islamophobic Muslims?

"Tarek is very clear in his assertions that stealth Jihadist organizations have infiltrated the West, and very clear there is an Islamofascistic ideology behind the invasion. And he is unwavering in his statement that civilization is in grave danger because of it. Those are exactly the same things the Islamophobes have been screaming for years. He's obviously an Islamophobic Muslim."

http://www.fatwaonislam.com/2011/08/islamophobic-m...

By the way, I will do a fact by fact recount with any leftist or muslim wishing to dismiss the doctrine of stealth Jihad as a delusion or politically motivated tool.

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jlazz responds:

 

8/31/2011 11:05 AM EDT

I dismiss it, as I dismiss the ridiculous website you link. That is not to say that there may not be some extremists who actually do use taqiyya to justify a lie, but that is just another example of how extremists reinvent traditional doctrine to suit their own purposes. Taqiyya is not license to subvert, but license to preserve your life when, as a Shia, you are surrounded by Sunni who would kill you if they knew you were Shia. Any Sunni extremists who try to invoke it are really giving away how far out of touch with their own religion they are.

The reinvention of traditional Islamic concepts like jihad and taqiyya are precisely why it is so easy to identify such extremist groups as politically motivated. They have a grievance, they decide to take action, so they look for ways to justify it and to make it relatable to the widest frame of potential followers possible. They use Islamic-sounding terms to make what they are doing seem permissible, luring in others with the same socio-political grievances and gaining sympathy.

Where they can't find a ready-made justification, they reach to the most extreme interpretations of doctrine or reinvent it altogether. Ironically, the extremist groups claiming to be the most "authentically" Islamic are the ones with the most blatantly non-traditional views, ones that were either heretical for a thousand years or simply didn't exist until the 19th century.

Kingofkings1 wrote:

8/30/2011 4:20 PM EDT

No commentary necessary - professor, no deviation from your usual excellent style and substance. The challenge of a responsible democracy is to prevent the likes of Stalin, Hitler, Milosevic, Modi, Breivik, or Avigdor Lieberman. This article is a step in the right direction.

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stormpost wrote:

 

8/30/2011 2:06 PM EDT

Also Susan, the bible and the koran will never meet in the middle; what the bible says to you and "christians", is totally different from what the koran says to "muslims".

What you "get out of the Bible", and what muslims get "out of the Koran", are totally different teachings; otherwise there would be no need for 2 books, correct? One teaches about God and Jesus Christ, and the other teaches about muhammed.and allah; tho some say "they are the same", nothing could be further from the truth.Read both and you will see for yourself.

jlazz responds:

 

8/30/2011 2:14 PM EDT

I've read both. Much of the Quran repeats stories in the Bible. They mostly cover the same ground, but Muslims believe the second was given to clear up the first since they think Christians are mistaken to think of Jesus as God. To be fair, neither Christians nor Muslims usually "get" the idea of trinity, so I don't think we should get too hung up on it.

In any case, the lessons are largely the same, emphasizing the importance of community, faith, submission to God's will. The practical differences are pretty much nil.

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ThomasBaum responds:

 

8/31/2011 12:07 PM EDT

The lineage in the bible is Abraham, Isaac... .

 

The lineage in the koran is Abraham, Ismail... .

With the lineage in the bible , Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel, is the beginning of the Jews.

With the lineage in the koran, they are no Jews.

This is far from "mostly cover the same ground".

In the bible, Jesus is God-Incarnate and God Is a Trinity.

In the koran, Jesus is merely a prophet of the god of islam who gets extremely upset if anyone thinks/believes that Jesus Is God-Incarnate and that God Is a Trinity.

To put it mildly, this is not even close to "mostly cover the same ground".

jlazz responds:

8/31/2011 1:41 PM EDT

As I've said, I've read both. Have you? While the lineage indeed splits after Abraham, most of the stories are about the same prophets. There are only two prophets aside from Muhammad in the Quran that are not also in the Bible (Hud and Saleh), and the stories are very close parallels, the key difference being that the Quran does not include the sins of the Biblical prophets because they consider prophets to be divinely protected from sin. Adam, Noah, Moses, Joseph, you name it you will will likely find it. The Quran even has an entire chapter devoted to the family of Mary, who they believe was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, held to be one of the most revered prophets of all.

People with an actual theological understanding of the Bible and the Quran recognize there are differences, but the differences are not so great as to amount to some need for antagonism. This is why the strongest attempts to reach out to Muslims has come not from agnostics but from Christians themselves.

The trinity is not at all a Biblical conception and didn't solidify until after neo-Platonic philosophy was introduced to the faith in order to give it some credibility among the educated classes. I can understand why Muslims see the idea of trinity as a problem because the major theme of most of the Quranic stories is about how mankind repeatedly slips into polytheism, like when it tells the story of what happened when Moses was away on the mountain receiving revelation, another story that may be familiar to you. Really, though, there is much misunderstanding about trinity among both sides, so I'm not generally concerned about the argument.

Of course none of this matters at all in practice, since the reality of the situation is that the vast majority of people, - Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever - just want to be able to live their lives, have a family, and have the same for their children. The basic value systems that all the major faiths espouse is similar enough tha...See More

ThomasBaum responds:

8/31/2011 6:32 PM EDT

jlazz

You asked, "As I've said, I've read both. Have you?"

No.

You then wrote, "While the lineage indeed splits after Abraham, most of the stories are about the same prophets."

This is not something minor, to say the least, it is not that the "lineage indeed splits", it is that it goes completely different, in other words, there is no Israel since there is no Jacob, there are no Jews since Jews came into being by God's choosing thru Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the koran is a total twistation of the bible.

You then wrote, "the stories are very close parallels"

"Very close parallels" as in lies.

Something that is close to the truth is a lie, not an "almost" truth.

Something that is 99% true is harder to see thru than something that is 100% false but it nevertheless is still a lie.

You then wrote, "the key difference being that the Quran does not include the sins of the Biblical prophets because they consider prophets to be divinely protected from sin."

This seems to be a "huge" difference not just a key difference, seems as if the God of the bible was able to use very human people in His Plan, in other words they had to work thru their humanity rather than be "protected" from their humanity, is that what "key difference" points to?

You then wrote, "The Quran even has an entire chapter devoted to the family of Mary, who they believe was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, held to be one of the most revered prophets of all."

Jesus is "held to be one of the most revered prophets of all" but just a prophet not God-Incarnate, do you for even one instance think that this "difference" is minor?

Irregardless of what you believe/know, do you think for even a microsecond that this difference is minor?

Doesn't the god of islam get mighty perturbed if someone refers to God as their Father and/or to Jesus as God-Incarnate and/or that God Is a Trinity and yet One?

ThomasBaum responds:

 

8/31/2011 6:50 PM EDT

jlazz

You wrote, "People with an actual theological understanding of the Bible and the Quran recognize there are differences, but the differences are not so great as to amount to some need for antagonism."

I don't see where there is "some need for antagonism" either but I also don't see a need for out and out lies on the part of "theologians" to be politically correct.

Watered-down Christianity is not Christianity, not even close.

If Jesus is not God-Incarnate than Christianity simple does not exist.

The god of islam and the God of the bible are not one and the same.

Either both are false, one is true and the other false but both can not be true.

You then wrote, "This is why the strongest attempts to reach out to Muslims has come not from agnostics but from Christians themselves. "

Christians should reach out to everyone and treat everyone as a child of God and as their brother and sister since God became out Brother when God became Incarnate in the person of Jesus, Jesus didn't just become a Brother to those that believe/know that He is God-Incarnate but to the whole human race, past, present and to come.

jlazz responds:

9/1/2011 10:40 AM EDT

You had better hope that "watered down Christianity" is good enough, because that is what you practice. Any objective look at the history of Christianity will demonstrate that American Christians practice absolutely nothing like what the original Christians did. If you want to cling to such a rigid interpretation of truth, then you must be practicing a lie. I prefer instead to think that if there is a God that he's big enough to overlook the minutia and focus on the bigger picture.

The two faiths are only incompatible for people who have a narrow, shallow understanding of their faith. The reason the theologians tend to get along is not because they "lie" for political correctness but because they have a deep enough understanding to know that faith introduces more questions than it answers - that it is the acceptance of mystery, not the guide to ultimate truth.

Finally, yes the God of Islam and the Bible are the same, and that will be obvious if you read the Quran, which explicitly states that the Torah and Gospels were given by God before the Quran. People who think Allah is a moon god simply don't know what they're talking about - Allah just means "The God", and it is the same word that Arabic speaking Christians use in their Bibles. It is not a proper noun, neither is God or Dios - they are a label for an idea that cannot be named because it is simply too big for a name.

ThomasBaum responds:

 

9/1/2011 3:47 PM EDT

jlazz

You wrote, " I prefer instead to think that if there is a God that he's big enough to overlook the minutia and focus on the bigger picture."

Yea, like God having a Plan that is for ALL, not that some with be tortured forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and... .

You then wrote, "The two faiths are only incompatible for people who have a narrow, shallow understanding of their faith"

Whether Jesus is God-Incarnate or not may be "a narrow, shallow understanding of their faith" but it is worlds apart, to put it mildly.

God becoming One of us is what Christianity is.

Jesus merely being another prophet is what Islam is, even if he is highly revered.

It doesn't matter if one believes it or not, I can't see how anyone would consider this minor if they actually thought about it.

You then wrote, "Finally, yes the God of Islam and the Bible are the same, and that will be obvious if you read the Quran, which explicitly states that the Torah and Gospels were given by God before the Quran."

God is a Trinity and Jesus is God-Incarnate and from what I have heard the god of islam categorically refutes this therefore the god of islam and the God of the bible are not the same.

If the god of islam "explicitly states that the Torah and Gospels were given by God before the Quran" why is Jesus different and why is who Abraham took up different, as I have said, whether anyone believes these people and events to be true, the so-called "minor" differences are anything but.

"Watered-down Christianity" to me is saying that Jesus taught some nice things and was a nice guy but wasn't God-Incarnate.

"Watered-down Christianity" is also thinking/believing that if one knows God's Name that is all there is to it and if one does not knows God's Name than tough.

"Watered-down Christianity" is also making God so small that one can figure out everything, and of course it always seems that one of those things, is that the "figure-outer" is going to the good place.

If God were even remotely like what many t...See More

ThomasBaum responds:

 

9/1/2011 4:00 PM EDT

jlazz

You wrote, " I prefer instead to think that if there is a God that he's big enough to overlook the minutia and focus on the bigger picture."

Yea, like God having a Plan that is for ALL, not that some with be tortured forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and... .

You then wrote, "The two faiths are only incompatible for people who have a narrow, shallow understanding of their faith"

Whether Jesus is God-Incarnate or not may be "a narrow, shallow understanding of their faith" but it is worlds apart, to put it mildly.

God becoming One of us is what Christianity is.

Jesus merely being another prophet is what Islam is, even if he is highly revered.

It doesn't matter if one believes it or not, I can't see how anyone would consider this minor if they actually thought about it.

You then wrote, "Finally, yes the God of Islam and the Bible are the same, and that will be obvious if you read the Quran, which explicitly states that the Torah and Gospels were given by God before the Quran."

God is a Trinity and Jesus is God-Incarnate and from what I have heard the god of islam categorically refutes this therefore the god of islam and the God of the bible are not the same.

If the god of islam "explicitly states that the Torah and Gospels were given by God before the Quran" why is Jesus different and why is who Abraham took up different, as I have said, whether anyone believes these people and events to be true, the so-called "minor" differences are anything but.

"Watered-down Christianity" to me is saying that Jesus taught some nice things and was a nice guy but wasn't God-Incarnate.

"Watered-down Christianity" is also thinking/believing that if one knows God's Name that is all there is to it and if one does not knows God's Name than tough.

"Watered-down Christianity" is also making God so small that one can figure out everything, and of course it always seems that one of those things, is that the "figure-outer" is going to the good place.

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stormpost wrote:

8/30/2011 1:58 PM EDT

Dear Susan, The recent Pew Research Poll shows that 21% of muslims support radical idea's,(jihad,sharia law) etc. (that means 79% do not, or will not show their hand regarding muslim radicalism.

Yes we all love our neighbors, but when any would support radicalism, this "unease" turns up as "not trusting". Wlhen the vast majority of muslims "come out verbally, and with action" to defeat radicalism from their midst, then we all can feel better, but the out cry from the muslim community against radical leaders,acction and voices, has been quite silent to say the least. When the muslims communities and mosques, march to defeat radicalism in their midst, then we can trust, until then no

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jlazz responds:

8/30/2011 2:33 PM EDT

I've been trying to find where you are seeing this, are you talking about the 21% on page 1? Because that's not support for extremism, that is what percentage think there is some level of support for extremism, compared to the 40% of non-Muslim Americans who think the same

backspace1 wrote:

8/30/2011 1:53 PM EDT

"Smoke a little marywanna and they become hardened criminals"? to whom it may concern. unemployed boredom.?

one can only work in the yard and attend gym so much in a day.

i admit i'm defective! that being said what rights does a defective have when evolving into this world. having been pro-created .

i hate christians, jews , muslims and everyone that hides behind their beliefs and exploits for mere profit.

i hope we never meet 'to whom it may concern'? cause it's going to take a lot for me not throw a punch.

YEAL9 wrote:

8/30/2011 12:17 PM EDT

"Fear, Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America."

And said fear is well-founded.

What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no female or male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

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VWWV responds:

8/30/2011 12:47 PM EDT

Oh, you read the Quran. Can you please highlight the passages you want removed and repost?

bobaluchowdury responds:

8/30/2011 1:00 PM EDT

Yeal

Did you just post that to prove the author's point?

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Garak responds:

8/30/2011 5:05 PM EDT

What instigated the Nazi genocide of 6 million Jews?

Christianity and the Bible. Kill the Christ-killers, etc. 2000 years of Christian anti-semitism came to a head in the person of the oh-so-Christian Fuhrer.

Islam has a long way to go before it even approaches Christianity's record of bloodshed.

YEAL9 responds:

8/30/2011 11:57 PM EDT

The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to

Each Other:

http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

The Muslim Conquest of India

"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

Rank

bobaluchowdury responds.

8/31/2011 10:33 AM EDT

When you copy and paste the same dribble over and over again you have become a spammer. Please try and engage in conversation instead.

rentianxiang responds:

8/31/2011 1:42 PM EDT

Garak,

I agree that Christianity has a lot to answer for but it is still a rank amateur when compared to the horrors committed in the name of Islam. All one would have to do is mention the devastation caused by Muslims slaughtering Hindus in India, which eclipses all of the slaughter ever done in the name of Christianity. The military conquests and murders of innocent non-Muslims across the Levant, North Africa (including Egypt), Persia, Greece (now occupied by Muslims who have appropriated the land now going by the name Turkey), Spain, Sicily, Austria, Russia, and the list goes on and on. And to try to say the Christianity is as bad as Islam today is simply laughable. It seems almost every major conflict in the world today has Muslims involved.

jlazz responds:

8/31/2011 2:12 PM EDT

Well the British killed millions in India, does that mean we can't trust the British? Europeans as a whole completely decimated Africa, and before that they were decimating themselves over rival Christian interpretations. And there was that whole Crusades thing, and, funny thing, they actually murdered more Christians and Jews on the way to the Middle East than Muslims when they got there. I dunno, it's looking pretty bad for European Christians, we'd better watch those guys.

YEAL9 responds:

8/31/2011 5:09 PM EDT

o Reiteration is great for the learning process. As is reading and rational thinking followed by conclusions based on all of it.

YEAL9 responds:

8/31/2011 11:34 PM EDT

Read carefully:

The Worst Thing People Have Done to Each Other:

http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

Rank......Death Toll.. Cause.. Centuries...Religions/Groups involved*

1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

jlazz responds:

9/1/2011 10:40 AM EDT

Except nobody reads you anymore. You are simply a running joke. Why your spammer account hasn't been banned yet is beyond me

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9/11 oral histories: AMPAC Million Muslim March on 9/11/13

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[Explosive Testimony: Revelations about the Twin Towers in the 9/11

Oral Histories

by David Ray Griffin]

 

A great deal of important information is still hidden about what really happened in 9/11/2001. The true testimonies of people lived the horrific attack is hidden from the public for no good reasons. These testimonies will question the actual details of the event and the attacker. The Million Muslim March, under the Freedom of Information Act, is demanding the release of the full investigation of 9/11. Since the destroying of the Twin Towers was an attack on our nation, the public must know what exactly happened and why. Great deals of lives were killed in the attack and until now, Americans and the world cannot understand why. Knowing the full story of 9/11 would help the general public understand why American was hurt this way. After all, trillions of dollars are spent as a result of 9/11 and America is still in war overseas. These dollars are the American citizens’ pure hard work tax money.

By: Isa Hodge, Chief Operations, Million Muslim March on 9/11/13 @ White House in Washington DC

Explosive Testimony: Revelations about the Twin Towers in the 9/11

Oral Histories

by David Ray Griffin

"[T]here was just an explosion [in the south tower]. It seemed like on television [when] they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."--Firefighter Richard Banaciski

"I saw a flash flash flash [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building?"

--Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory

"[I]t was [like a] professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear 'Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop'."

--Paramedic Daniel Rivera

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The above quotations come from a collection of 9/11 oral histories that, although recorded by the Fire Department of New York (FDNY) at the end of 2001, were publicly released only on August 12, 2005. Prior to that date, very few Americans knew the content of these accounts or even the fact that they existed.

Why have we not known about them until recently? Part of the answer is that the city of New York would not release them until it was forced to do so. Early in 2002, the New York Times requested copies under the freedom of information act, but Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration refused. So the Times, joined by several families of 9/11 victims, filed suit. After a long process, the city was finally ordered by the New York Court of Appeals to release the records (with some exceptions and redactions allowed). Included were oral histories, in interview form, provided by 503 firefighters and medical workers.1 (Emergency Medical Services had become a division within the Fire Department.2) The Times then made these oral histories publicly available.3

Once the content of these testimonies is examined, it is easy to see why persons concerned to protect the official story about 9/11 would try to keep them hidden. By suggesting that explosions were occurring in the World Trade Center's Twin Towers, they pose a challenge to the official account of 9/11, according to which the towers were caused to collapse solely by the impact of the airplanes and the resulting fires.

In any case, now that the oral histories have finally been released, it is time for Americans and the world in general to see what these brave men and women reported about that fateful day. If this information forces a reevaluation of the official story about 9/11, better now than later.

That said, it must be added that although these oral histories are of great significance, they do not contain the first reports of explosions in the Twin Towers. Such reports--from firefighters, reporters, and people who had worked in the towers---started becoming available right after 9/11.

These reports, however, were not widely publicized by the mainstream press and, as a result, have for the most part been known only within the "9/11 truth movement," which has focused on evidence that seems inconsistent with the official story.

I will begin by summarizing some of those previously available reports. Readers will then be able to see that although in some respects the newly released oral histories simply add reinforcement, they also are revelatory documents: Some of the testimonies are quite stunning, even to people familiar with the earlier reports; and there are now so many testimonies that even the most skeptical reader is likely to find the cumulative effect impressive.

Previously Available Testimony Suggestive of Explosions in the Twin Towers

The day after 9/11, a story in the Los Angeles Times, referring to the south tower, said: "There were reports of an explosion right before the tower fell, then a strange sucking sound, and finally the sound of floors collapsing."4

A story in the Guardian said that "police and fire officials were carrying out the first wave of evacuations when the first of the World Trade Centre towers collapsed. Some eyewitnesses reported hearing another explosion just before the structure crumbled. Police said that it looked almost like a 'planned implosion.'"5

"Planned implosion" is another term for controlled demolition, in which explosives are placed at crucial places throughout a building so that, when set off in the proper order, they will cause the building to come down in the desired way. When it is close to other buildings, the desired way will be straight down into, or at least close to, the buildings footprint, so that it does not damage the surrounding buildings. This type of controlled demolition is called an "implosion." To induce an implosion in steel-frame buildings, the explosives must be set so as to break the steel columns. Each of the Twin Towers had 47 massive steel columns in its core and 236 steel columns around the periphery.

To return now to testimonies about explosions: There were many reports about an explosion in the basement of the north tower. For example, janitor William Rodriguez reported that he and others felt an explosion below the first sub-level office at 9 AM, after which co-worker Felipe David, who had been in front of a nearby freight elevator, came into the office with severe burns on his face and arms yelling "explosion! explosion! explosion!"6

Rodriguez's account has been corroborated by Jose Sanchez, who was in the workshop on the fourth sub-level. Sanchez said that he and a co-worker heard a big blast that "sounded like a bomb," after which "a huge ball of fire went through the freight elevator."7

Engineer Mike Pecoraro, who was working in the sixth sub-basement of the north tower, said that after an explosion he and a co-worker went up to the C level, where there was a small machine shop. "There was nothing there but rubble," said Pecoraro. "We're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press--gone!" They then went to the parking garage, but found that it was also gone. Then on the B level, they found that a steel-and-concrete fire door, which weighed about 300 pounds, was wrinkled up "like a piece of aluminum foil." Having seen similar things after the terrorist attack in 1993, Pecoraro was convinced that a bomb had gone off.8

Given these testimonies to explosions in the basement levels of the towers, it is interesting that Mark Loizeaux, head of Controlled Demolition, Inc., has been quoted as saying: "If I were to bring the towers down, I would put explosives in the basement to get the weight of the building to help collapse the structure."9

Multiple Explosions

Some of the testimonies suggested that more than one explosion occurred in one tower or the other. FDNY Captain Dennis Tardio, speaking of the south tower, said: "I hear an explosion and I look up. It is as if the building is being imploded, from the top floor down, one after another, boom, boom, boom."10

In June of 2002, NBC television played segments from tapes recorded on 9/11. One segment contained the following exchange, which involved firefighters in the south tower:

Official: Battalion 3 to dispatch, we've just had another explosion.

Official: Battalion 3 to dispatch, we've had additional explosion.

Dispatcher: Received battalion command. Additional explosion.11

Firefighter Louie Cacchioli, after entering the north tower lobby and seeing elevator doors completely blown out and people being hit with debris, asked himself, "how could this be happening so quickly if a plane hit way above"? After he reached the 24th floor, he and another fireman "heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb [and] knocked off the lights and stalled the elevator." After they pried themselves out of the elevator, "another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later . . . [and] I'm thinking, "Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!"12

Multiple explosions were also reported by Teresa Veliz, who worked for a software development company in the north tower. She was on the 47th floor, she reported, when suddenly "the whole building shook. . . . [Shortly thereafter] the building shook again, this time even more violently." Then, while Veliz was making her way downstairs and outside: "There were explosions going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. . . . There was another explosion. And another. I didn't know where to run."13

Steve Evans, a New York-based correspondent for the BBC, said: "I was at the base of the second tower . . . that was hit. . . . There was an explosion. . . . The base of the building shook. . . . [T]hen there was a series of explosions."14

Sue Keane, an officer in the New Jersey Fire Police Department who was previously a sergeant in the U.S. Army, said in her account of the onset of the collapse of the south tower: "[I]t sounded like bombs going off. That's when the explosions happened. . . . I knew something was going to happen. . . . It started to get dark, then all of a sudden there was this massive explosion." Then, discussing her experiences during the collapse of the north tower, she said: "[There was] another explosion. That sent me and the two firefighters down the stairs. . . . I can't tell you how many times I got banged around. Each one of those explosions picked me up and threw me. . . . There was another explosion, and I got thrown with two firefighters out onto the street."15

Wall Street Journal reporter John Bussey, describing his observation of the collapse of the south tower from the ninth floor of the WSJ office building, said: "I . . . looked up out of the office window to see what seemed like perfectly synchronized explosions coming from each floor. . . . One after the other, from top to bottom, with a fraction of a second between, the floors blew to pieces."16

Another Wall Street Journal reporter said that after seeing what appeared to be "individual floors, one after the other exploding outward," he thought: "'My God, they're going to bring the building down.' And they, whoever they are, HAD SET CHARGES. . . . I saw the explosions."17

A similar perception was reported by Beth Fertig of WNYC Radio, who said: "It just descended like a timed explosion--like when they are deliberately bringing a building down. . . . It was coming down so perfectly that in one part of my brain I was thinking, 'They got everyone out, and they're bringing the building down because they have to.'"18

A more graphic testimony to this perception was provided on the film made by the Naudet brothers. In a clip from that film, one can watch two firemen describing their experiences to other firemen.

Fireman 1: "We made it outside, we made it about a block . . . ."

Fireman 2: "We made it at least two blocks and we started running." He makes explosive sounds and then uses a chopping hand motion to emphasize his next point: "Floor by floor it started popping out . . . ."

Fireman 1: "It was as if they had detonated--as if they were planning to take down a building, boom boom boom boom boom . . . ."

Fireman 2: "All the way down. I was watching it and running. And then you just saw this cloud of shit chasing you down."19

As these illustrations show, quite impressive testimony to the occurrence of explosions in the Twin Towers existed even prior to the release of the oral histories. As we will see, however, these oral histories have made the testimony much more impressive, qualitatively as well as quantitatively. The cumulative testimony now points even more clearly than before not simply to explosions but to controlled demolition...

Read more here:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192

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AnonymousSeptember 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Could the "multiple explosions" people were allegedly hearing not be the sound of the top floors falling onto the next floor down...and so on and so on? 2,000 tons of concrete & steel would make a lot of noise as it falls down to the next floor would it not?

The "blowing out" of the glass etc on each floor, possibly caused when the upper floor drops down to the next floor thus pushing all the air out of the point of least resistance (i.e. blowing out windows)

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Could the "multiple explosions" people were allegedly hearing not be the sound of the top floors falling onto the next floor down...and so on and so on? 2,000 tons of concrete & steel would make a lot of noise as it falls down to the next floor would it not?

The "blowing out" of the glass etc on each floor, possibly caused when the upper floor drops down to the next floor thus pushing all the air out of the point of least resistance (i.e. blowing out

windows)

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WallyworldSeptember 26, 2011 at 8:34 PM

See this...

http://howthehellshouldiknow-wallyworld.blogspot.com/2011/09/experts-on-911-demolition.html

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WallyworldSeptember 26, 2011 at 8:40 PM

And this...

http://howthehellshouldiknow-wallyworld.blogspot.com/2011/09/911-unveiled.html

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WallyworldSeptember 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM

One more...

http://howthehellshouldiknow-wallyworld.blogspot.com/2011/09/moreover-not-single-one-of-experts.html

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AnonymousFebruary 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM

why would our goverment want to murder our own civilians by the thousands for now reason seriously these conspiracies are so stupid like really

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AnonymousFebruary 14, 2012 at 10:25 PM

and if it was the government(which it wasn't) why would we target are military (the pentagon)our economy (the world trade centers) and biggest why the hell would the government attempt to kill our own president cause one of the planes was heading for the white house

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WallyworldFebruary 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Ever hear of JFK? Who claims that a plane was headed towards the White House? Bush wasn't in Washington that day.

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AnonymousFebruary 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

yes i have and i don't believe in these conspiracy crap especially ones around 9/11 my aunt was suppose to be one one of the planes and she remembers walking by terrorist so you try talking to her and tell her it was the government so ya and so even if bush wan't there there are still other people of high power in the white house even when the president isn't there

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ReplieskloeSeptember 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Oh, yeah? And she saw the terrorist, immediately recognized him, and quickly changed her mind - "there's a terrorist here, old lady, you'd be better off that plane"... and she didn't get on, eh? Come on! The government (+ the president!) had well too good reasons to set up a "terrorist attack" and start a "war on terror", e.g. never-ending wars in geostrategical places. And they use people's FEAR to do this, which is their strongest weapon. This weapon wouldn't have been possible without the 9/11 "terrorist attacks".

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AnonymousFebruary 15, 2012 at 11:32 PM

oh and again the pilot John Organowski the pilot of the first plane was from my town so ya another reason how i know it wasn't the government

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AnonymousMarch 22, 2012 at 10:55 PM

You "Anti-Conspiracy Theorist" types are incredibly ridiculous. Your reasoning skills are about as bad as your spelling and grammar. "my aunt was suppose to be one one of the planes and she remembers walking by terrorist". The above quote is a perfect example of what I mean when I say "reasoning skills". Just because Islamofacists were being used for a very convincing cover story... Doesn't mean that bombs did not go off in the basement or lobby, or that tower 7 was imploded in a controlled fashion even though it wasn't touched by any airplane. It seems like it doesn't matter what the facts are anymore... afterall, what trully matters to people nowadays are their feelings, so be very sensitive to that, not honest or truthful. Be sensitive to others comfort zones, thats right, turn that television back on, Jersey shore, MTV, up in da club...

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Counselor CounseletApril 4, 2012 at 11:09 AM

I see the Federation Building skyscraper in Moscow still burning for the past three days and it has not collapesed yet and don't expect to. In too short of time did the Twin Towers collapes that tells me something is very wrong.

The owner/leaser acquired those Twin Towers for 15 million, then sued the insurance company and got 7 billion after the so called terrorist attack. Not a bad investment from where I stand. Doesn't that say anything to you? What better way to bring down those towers without a lot of expense and make billions from the insurance as well as collecting rents once these new buildings are completed. When you can't see the common sense in what I am saying, your mind has been affected by the same poisons that those who devise this scheme.

The multitude of poisons that have been released into our food system by way of the FDA and the White House have affected those that are in contol of them as well. You need an honest Madam President to take over control and get people into office to clean it up... In all truth, those poisons have affected those that caused the problem and they are not in control of the common sense area of their brains.

I don't want to hurt them, I just want to clear their minds and begin to build a better, safer future for all of us. Violence is not the answer, it takes molding of minds to do right by the truth, the love and the peace that is really located is each one of us. After all, it has been proven that the spirit is the seed of life and you can revolve back into this world. You and they have no choice when it come to where you shall be born so the best way is to make a more perfect, safe world for your rebirth.

I rest my case for now...

Counselor Counselet

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AnonymousApril 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

For one bush and Dick made money off of the twin towers collapsing second why were all of the high miltary peopke out of the pentagon that day and three u dont know that they were going for the whitehouse dumbfucks and four it wasnt a plane that hit the pentagon it was a missle there was no wing marks in the pentagon and the fbi took all of the videos except for one that you could not tell what it was

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RepliesAnonymousJune 18, 2012 at 1:32 PM

complete nonsense

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AnonymousAugust 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM

"complete nonsense" huh? yeah, find me a picture of Pentagon where I can see wings, tail section or engines of an airplane... will You find it, please??????

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AnonymousSeptember 12, 2012 at 8:38 AM

100% front facing head-on collisions do NOT show large segments of aircraft. Get an engineering degree, and simmer down.

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AnonymousOctober 31, 2012 at 5:27 PM

its sad to see that america has such stupid people residing within it. It is unquestionable that gigantic jet planes flying into a tall, incredibly heavy skyscraper, would not destroy it. Also if the government truly wanted to destroy the buildings, they would have used high explosives not low explosives like jet fuel. Furthermore, after such a catastrophic collision, it wold be reasonable for the jets to turn into dust let alone leave big chunks of debris. PLEASE either get educated in basic physics and engineering, or leave this country. We do not want you here 9/11 truthers!

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AnonymousNovember 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Sad, paranoid,...Son of Sam is actually Santa Claus.

 

A conversation between Isa Hodge and a fellow American citizen of AMPACS motives for Million Muslim March. By Isa Hodge

Posted by MD Rabbi Alam on January 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM Comments comments (0)

A conversation between me and a fellow American citizen of AMPACS motives for Million Muslim March:

Lee Kaplan The 9/11 Commission report was released to the public. THe only exception was information pertaining to Saudi Arabia was redacted.

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Lee Kaplan The Bush administration went out of its way to separate the attacks on 9/11 from the Muslim faith, so accusations of persecution of Muslims practicing Da'wa are nonsense. They of course will not get one million Muslim to Washington as that's half the entire Muslim population in the US. My asseseement is that this is yet another publicity stunt by militatn Islamists in the US to cover up for what they are hoping to do: promote sharia law in the US, help Hamas to destory Israel in the Middle East and in long term goals to eventually make America another Muslim dominated country. The last goal will probably not happen in opur lifetimes, but that doesn't mean they are not process driven. Genghis Khan conquered Iran but Muslims took over his followers over succeeding centuries. The current course of action from Iran is to develop their nuclear capabilities and create a Cold War scenario with the US as we used to ahve with the Soviet Union. By creating a pro-Iranian, pro-Ayatollah environment in the US it is seen as a long term goal to aid a war of attrition against the United States. While it is true Iranians are shias, the fact remains the sunnis may still join their cause if Israel is touted as a first step to conquer America.

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Lee Kaplan Anyone want to bet me money they get no more than 10,000 people to attend this nonsense?

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Isa Hodge: Lee thank you for your comments. One of the many great joys of being an American is freedom of speech. After reading your comments above I would have to respectfully disagree with well all of your comments. First off allow me to introduce my self. I am a white American born in this country raised in this country and as an adult in this country exercised my freedom of religion about 19 years ago and became Muslim. And you know what there was no sword to my throat no kidnapping of my family to force me. I choose of my own free will. Now let me try to help broaden your horizon not by trying to convince you one religion is right and another is wrong. Wont waist my time because what a person believes is between them and God. To you be your way and to me be mine. The Bush admin is the first thing you mention. Where exactly other then the one speech he gave at ground zero did he separate Islam and terrorism. Since 9/11 there has been an on the hour every hour joining of those two words by every media outlet, politician, and anti Islam organization. The word terrorist is synonymous with Muslims and Islam and no one else. Even though you have people of all faiths and creeds committing these same acts of violence. The list goes on and on especially lately but I'll give you one which fits the FBI's definition of terrorism to the letter. Anders Behring Breivik who on July 22nd 2011 set off a series of explosions and dressed as a policeman with a fully automatic rifle killing 93 people in Oslo Norway. Ander’s online 1500 page manifesto clearly stated his motives for this, as every media outlet called it: “:murderous rampage” or “random act of violence” (not terrorism or terror attacks) that his hatred of the “Muslimization” of his country had gone too far and was calling on all conservative Chrsitians to start the 4th Christian Crusade wanting to create deadlier attacks including ones involving the use of Weapons Of Mass Destruction, as reported on ABC World News on July 25th 2011. Now you would be hard pressed to find one western media outlet using the word terrorist to describe him. I am assuming you are a white Christian if not you know some. Let me ask you a question. Do they have to go around when they share their faith with people excusing or disassociating them selves from the KKK. Or the acts of Christians during slavery like we as Muslims do with 9/11. On to your theory of our motives at AMPAC. I nor those in the organization or militants Islamic or other wise. This is not a ploy to instill Shariah law here. Though funny enough it already is was here since the deceleration of independence and our constitution. That is a whole other long conversation. You are more then welcome to go to our web site and read some articles on that subject written by me as well as articles on all your theories of our intentions. We are not interested in helping any group defeat Israel in fact we are for stopping all wars that our American citizens continue to bleed and die for and all our tax dollars being spent on foreign nations while we the people foot the bill and our children have poor education, and more and more people are with out jobs, and we continue to borrow more and more money from China to the point that they send their repo men and reposes America out from under us. The Iran theory well let me tell you that they are Shia and a minority there and even here amongst Muslims. Iran is the only Shia country out of 56 Muslim countries the rest are Sunni. And Shia and Sunni over seas have been fighting and killing each other for over 1000 years. So out of 7 million Muslims in this country maybe 1 % is Shia. FYI non of us in AMPAC is Shia. A little history about their war has to do with the successor to Prophet Mohamed SWS and they have been killing each others leaders ever since. So no their will be no peace agreement no holding hands between them singing Kumbi Ya lets kill some Jews. They each think the other are not Muslims. As to your last comment about a bet. Well we as Muslims are forbidden to gamble I will only say it is not about the number 1 million nor are all those invited or going God willing Muslims. It is about am injustice being done to us as Americans Muslim and Non Muslim alike. That the war machine has and is selling an ideology to the American people in order to justify and get the majority of Americans to go along with the expenditure and the lose of lives there and here in order to allow corporations to make MONEY. Sorry this was so long I am only trying to share some truth and this doesn't even touch the tip of the ice berg please feel free to go to ampacus.webs.com and read more on the above topics and read more about what ampac's goal is. Thanks.

Million American March on 9/11/13 is now Million American March Against Fear on 9//11/13: MAMAF

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Join AMPAC on a Historic Moment on 9/11/13 for Establishing the Humanity and Justice through Civil Rights Movement. 

 

Million Muslim March on 9/11/13:

Assalam Alaikum Brothers and Sisters,

We at AMPAC (American Political Action Committee) are planning an historic event for 9.11.13 where one million Muslims will march to Washington D.C. and demand that our civil rights be protected by our government.

 

We are demanding that laws be enacted protecting our 1st amendment . We are asking President Obama to fulfill his promise from his first campaign for Presidency of a transparent government. Lastly we are asking for the release of the 9/11 commission report to the American people.

 

On 9.11.01 our country was forever changed by the horrific events in New York. The entire country was victimized by the acts done on that day. Muslim and Non Muslim alike were traumatized but we as Muslims continue 12 years later to be victimized by being made the villains. To this day every media outlet and anti Islamic organization has committed slanderous and libel statements against us as Muslims and our religion of Islam.

 

Yet our Government either sits idly by and does nothing to protect our freedoms or it exacerbates the problem with its constant war on terrorism in Islamic countries, congressional hearings on Islam in America, and its changes to the NDAA law.

 

These lies told to the American population has made it impossible for us to do true Dawa. Why do we have to defend our religion while doing Dawa? Why can’t we just share the perfection of the Quran and the beauty of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SWS)?

 

It is time for us as Muslims in America to stop being defensive and start being proactive by using our right to vote and our freedom of assemble and let our voices be heard by our country and the world. Stand with us help us fight the injustices being committed against us.

 

Help us to wake the American citizen up to the truth and together Muslim and Non Muslim can take our country back to its true Democracy which is “For the people by the people”. Our Prophet in his final message told us: “Whoever sees an injustice should set it right by means of his hand; if not, by his tongue; if not, then by his heart and that is considered to be the weakest of faith.” And more to the point “If my nation are afraid to say to the oppressor, ‘O oppressor!’, then there is no hope in them.”

Sincerely your Brothers and Sisters in Islam

On behalf of AMPAC

Isa Hodge

Chief of Operations "Million Muslim March"

 

AMPAC

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